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Re: [microsound] Re: an interesting monolake answer



Everybody is friend of Rob Henke?? He must be very achievable!




> yep it is a good thread. If you've ever spent some time speaking with
> Robert Henke you might imagine him saying this with a somewhat
> mischievious grin on his face. I suspect he is using the word evil here in
> a less than totally didactic manner. I think he is simply saying don't use
> your eyes in spite of your ears when producing music.
>
> Robert Henke is not afraid of the image.
>
> PS Ableton Live has a brilliant interface. I find it a transformative
> environment. This is one of the reason's for it's success.
>
>> Nice thread, thus Robert's provocative statement must be respected.
>>
>>> Visual representation of sound is evil.
>>
>> Perhaps aural representation of sound is *live* ? Only Miles could tell
>> us
>> for sure.
>>
>> A defining distinction between BR (before recording) music and PR (post
>> recording) music is that the former requires a visual representation for
>> propagation, the latter does not. How much do we still need a visual
>> representation to concretize the musical conceptions we conjure in our
>> minds
>> (for those of us who still consider ourselves composers)? I want to
>> argue,
>> really not much at all anymore. In this regard there is an important
>> distinction between visual representation and abstraction. The latter is
>> inevitable in music conception since any musical conception I know of,
>> whether a tonal fugue or the decision to listen intently to the sounds
>> outside your dwelling, involves abstraction; if nothing else, then by
>> virtue
>> of attention to the processes of auditory cognition. Abstraction is
>> indispensible but visual representation is not. The musical conception
>> of
>> a
>> piece that is implemented with Live can precede the software in a way
>> that
>> an 18th century piano sonata conception could not precede the
>> limitations
>> and affordances of european music notation. (Did Mozart ever complain
>> about
>> not being able to write 1/4 tones the way folks here are complaining
>> about
>> Live's loop-bias doing their heads in?)
>>
>> As a side note, I nominate the optional nature of PR music's visual
>> representation as a key reason why the wackiest looking music scores
>> show
>> up
>> in the 20th century. Once freed from necessity, some people get looser
>> with
>> the tool, or start twirling it around over their heads.
>>
>> Eric
>>
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