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Re: [microsound] beginning-less universe



Hi,

As an ex-astrophysicist/cosmologist, I wanted to add that there are also
other cosmological theories which have as a feature an essentially infinite,
cyclic model of energy transfer, leaving out the question of how it all
started, because in essence it has always been.  Also, the Big Bang is not
as proven as the mainstream would want people to believe (in fact is
dis-proven, even Hubble himself was against it his whole life, "Hubble's
Law" was someone else's interpretation of his empirical finding, not his own
interpretation.)  I studied plasma cosmology which is based more on
electromagnetism and process philosophy paradigm, as opposed to the big bang
which is based on gravity and the object oriented paradigm.  In plasma
cosmology there is no need for dark matter, dark energy, or big bangs: the
dynamics of the universe are explained by taking into account the
electromagnetic forces present at the large scale within the plasma present
in the universe at all scales.  Also in this model, time just runs, it
doesn't run backwards ever, no need for such ideas.  This doesn't mean that
cyclic process is impossible, in fact oscillation is a very natural process
in a universe that only runs forward (the direction of time is arbitrary in
this sense.)  To this day there is an ongoing battle between the
'relativists' and the 'Maxwellians'; i.e. between the gravity, object
oriented paradigm, and the electromagnetic, process oriented paradigm.

Anyhow, I think it would be fun to base a microsound project on these ideas
somehow, as you suggested.  It ties into the ideas of discrete versus
continuum as well.  Well, I'll leave it at that.  There is this whole pi
thing that I haven't even started on yet...

-robert

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Bård Harazi Farbu <bardfarbu@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Hi all
>
> Read this in Wired today:
>
>        According to Turok, who teaches at Cambridge University, the Big
> Bang represents just one stage in an infinitely repeated cycle of
> universal expansion and                 contraction. Turok theorizes that
> neither
> time nor the universe has a beginning or end.
>
>        "Imagine you have a room full of air, with all these molecules
> banging around. The vast majority of time, these molecules spread
> uniformly -- but once in a trillion     trillion years, they all end up
> in the corner of the room. If you look at the room and run the clock
> forward, they'll eventually make themselves uniform: But it would
> reverse, and you'd watch them flying into the corner. Then they'd fly
> out again.
>
>        If this is right, it means that time runs forward for a while. Then
> there's a random state without an arrow of time, then time runs
> backwards, and then time runs forward   again. That's the bigger
> picture: We're still very far away from understanding it, but that
> would be my bet. "
>
>        In our picture, there was a universe before the Big Bang, very much
> like our universe today: a low density of matter and some stuff
> called dark energy. If you              postulate a universe like this,
> but the
> dark energy within is actually unstable, then the decay of this dark
> energy drives the two branes together. These two branes         clash and
> then, having filled with radiation, separate and expand to form
> galaxies and stars.
>
>        Then the dark energy takes over again. It's the energy of
> attraction
> between the two branes: It pulls them back together. You have bang
> followed by bang followed by    bang. You have no beginning of time.
> It's always been there.
>
>        http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/02/qa_turok
>
> Would't it be neat with a microsoundpiece modeling the beginning-less
> and never-ending universe presented in this theory?
>
>
> regards,
>
> Bård Farbu
>
> @:              bardfarbu@xxxxxxxxx
> www:    bardfarbu.com
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