RE: [microsound] fennesz & pita creative?

[lamm <lamm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

for god's sake, does anyone actually think that Fennesz latest music (on
touch, or his live perfs) sound like anything already heard before or
pre-established according to mainstream expectations ? His music is
absolutely unique and, I opine, often fabulous. THis debate on software is
going nowhere, I think: are Panasonic to blame because they use a 808 ? Or
Underground resistance because they use acid sounds? Or Sonny Sharrock
because he uses guitar amps feedbacks?

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that's one goofy ass post ...  a computer does absolutely nothing on its own
and any given max patch or reaktor ensemble etc will sound completely
different with every different user and his/her personal sample maps
installed. There are plenty of software writers who make wonderful
patches/ensembles and use them to make the most unlistenable academic crap
and then there's the likes of mr. fennesz who can make magic with whatever
pre-written code he comes across. i know what i'd rather listen to !
If it sounds good, it is indeed good.. if this paradigm doesn't work for
you,
then you must not be a music fan. I certainly prefer music over science..

bl

In a message dated 11/19/00 8:12:17 AM, a_listener23@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:

<< Hi,

I was talking recently with Le Quan Nin (I know I spelled that wrong but I
just can't do any better), (he is a French percussionist in the European
free improve seen) And he told me that Both Fennesz and Pita don't write
their own patches. . . (Fennesz words were that he is to lazy to do his own
programming). . . It just seems like what are they doing then? The program
really isn't just the "instrument" (when it comes to Max/MSP), but its the
peace of music itself (that changes in each performance, and can be
improvised on of course), but the creative "stamp" of the Program itself is
too huge to overlook. . . .

I am not of the opinion that if it sounds good it is good (all though if it
doesn't sound good it rarely is good)...  I feel like the computer does so
much already, then to go ahead and use someone else's max patch. . . I'm not
even sure who is "creating" the music. . . .

BTW I mean to be controversial. . . This problem exists beyond Fennesz and
pita, A lot of people are "getting away" with doing very little of the work
to make this music happen. .. .

bye. . .


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