Re: [microsound] oval armani

[Øivind Idsø <plateaux@xxxxxxxxxx>]

So, are you saying that music that apparently "uses" its audiene by releaseing
extra/lost(/found) tracks should be judged by these extra or additional
releases? What on earth has this kind of apparent commercialism to do with the
quality of the music? Or are you just using these extra releases as a post
factum argument to back up your claim that Oval´s "overrated"? Hard to tell
which comes first here.

Regarding Europe vs. Japan: I though it was already established that imported
CDs are *cheaper* (if you can imagine) in Japan than domestic releases. To make
sure the japanese record buying public support their domestic record industry
they (the industry) have to add extra tracks that are not found anywhere
else...which sounds rather clever to me if the product you are selling can
easily be bought cheaper elsewhere.

Oval´s music? Been loving it since Systemisch and still find it hugely
fascinating. Dok is brilliant and contains a few of the most beautiful
ambientglitchmetallicshiningsurface music I can think of. Ovalprocess is equally
appreciated; the sound of your dial-up-modem connection played by a very musical
powerbook.

Oval´s glitching is one thing. His luvely sense of harmony is another (yet it´s
still not widely appreciated it seems; it´s always the glitches, but they
wouldn´t be as special if it wasn´t for the harmonies/melodies).

/Øivind/


Frans De Waard wrote:

> I have to agree with Philippe. I think Oval is a very overrated band.
> Systemisch, 94 Diskont and to a lesser extent are classic albums,
> very musical, very light and very new. Everything that came after
> that I don't think is very well, noisy, unfocussed and euhhh boring.
> An act repeating itself in a spiral that goes downward. Why do these
> CDs have these long gaps in there?
> The other thing that always bothered me about Oval, is that (at least
> all the old) CDs are released in europe, US and Japan with different
> track listings, so that you, rik publik, can buy at least 2 of them
> (the european are never with extra tracks, so you can get the us and
> jap versions with extra's and the originals). And now Popp throws you
> something that is called Re:Systemisch, with extra pieces that can't
> be found anywhere else. Pure money grabbing, me thinks.
>
> just my two eurocents.
>
> frans
>
> >  >
> >>  "What I would like to know is if Mr Markus Popp did share anything with
> >>  his 2 other ex-bandmembers"... reads as unnecessarily accusatory to me...
> >>  maybe i just mis-read the post.
> >>
> >
> >no you didn't misread the post, it was just me bitching as I'm fed
> >up to see him be
> >so overrated... anyway no more waste of time over the
> >self-proclaimed "unique star of
> >electronic music"... philippe
> >
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