RE: [microsound] A remark about the list

["Richard Costelloe" <rcostelloe@xxxxxxxxx>]

 - My take is that I'm glad to read most of the posts announcing =
upcoming shows, even if they don't take place near me. I believe most of =
the individuals who participate to this list do so because there isn't =
another decent forum where this community could otherwise exist. There =
is no microsound/ambient/whatever listing in the local newspapers or on =
tv (otherwise maybe i'd read the paper or own a television) so several =
of the shows i want to attend i can only find out about through here - =
or through contacts made via the list. True this generates a lot of =
clutter in my mail box but overall it's worth it. Over the past few =
months I've read some extremely stimulating conversations regarding a =
very marginalized type of music and aesthestic approach which I would =
not be able to find anyplace else, it's a small price. At the same time =
I've seen shows that I certainly wouldn't have heard about otherwise. =
True, I agree some people are self-promoting mass-media style and that's =
annoying, but my final opinion will be generally be based on their music =
rather than promotional techniques.=20

- The mp3/cdr comment is truly asinine to say the least. Very few things =
posted on this list have really upset me but this was just ignorant. In =
the vein of experimentation and progress in our art, reading this =
comment was disappointing. I've released all my music though both mp3 =
and cdr's just because those are the formats that allow me to distribute =
my art as efficiently and self-sufficiently as possible. To be fair =
though I don't consider myself a musician in the same sense, it's one of =
many artistic avenues I enjoy just for the pleasure; I'm just lucky =
enough financially to be able to produce cd's that I can give away =
without worrying about my losses or where my next meal is coming from. =
Being able to separate money concerns from my art is a luxury I've =
always insisted upon. After all if someone is more caught up on the =
format medium rather than the music and the intended creative output =
then I don't know how much I really care what they think... Instead of =
spending $5 on getting a CD professionally pressed I can spend less than =
$2 and then put my $3 saved towards supporting someone else's efforts.=20

- The Twine comment was really out of context of Faith's general rant, =
but to be honest I can say I've never really been impressed with their =
music either, but it's just not my style. Having lived near Cleveland =
and in Denver I've been following their music for several years (since =
the early postings on mp3.com) and although I own several recordings and =
will hear them live whenever possible, the music doesn't stike me as =
that remarkable. However... they do put a lot of effort and energy into =
becoming very good at what they are doing and I will continue to support =
this however possible. I buy their cd's whenever I come across them and =
almost always end up passing them on to someone who hasn't heard of them =
before. In this lifetime I won't be making the opportunity to pursue a =
career in music so it's a vicarious pleasure : ) So, although they don't =
strike either myself or Faith as that amazing, they are doing a hell of =
a lot to get out there and actively expand the same aesthetic community =
that we are a part of and obviously value.=20

One final comment... I am in concurrence with j.frede in that this is a =
fairly small community and we share something quite unique, so that must =
be appreciated and supported. Losing, isolating or just agitating active =
participants over arguments about cat-squeezing (whoops!) or annoying =
self-promotions is something that really isn't to anyone's benefit. Even =
if some compromise is required, we have to deal with that because until =
MTV is playing some tracks from the latest .microsound compilation I =
think this is all we have (hmm, on second thoughts...)=20

So, being less snide and more constructive in your critisicms is all I =
can suggest.

- Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: dkl37@xxxxxxxx [mailto:dkl37@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 5:07 PM
To: microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [microsound] A remark about the list

What the hell is this? International Numbskull Day? I wonder what
planetary configuration is inspiring people to suddenly blow out
unthinking selfish-minded remarks. And to what purpose? Your opinion is
your opinion, but what constructive purpose does it serve here?
																			=09
Even more than the "fatih kizilgok" statement regarding announcements on
this list group, this is the most asinine statement I've heard here in a
long time: 													=09
> I no longer bother with MP3:s or CDR:s  -- if the artist does not =
think

> its worth pressing a real CD (which is inexpensive enough) .. why=20
> should anyone be willing to listen to and even pay for it?=20

You obviously have no frickin' clue as to what you are talking about, so
please go back to lurking and/or worshipping at the Wire alter and =
please
find something constructive to do afterwards.													=09
Sincerely, Dale

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