Re: [microsound] futurismo! [OT]

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I think of the president as a manager rather than a person
through which all decisions are made.  do you really want
your country run by a single human?  the job of the
president, or any good manager for that matter, is to
surround yourself with experts on the matters at hand.  you
direct their work and provide top level problem resolution,
but you're relying on them to advise you on problems which
require a specialized level of expertise. the president
delegates work and responsibility and holds those people
assigned to a task accountable.  all final decisions come
through him, and paired with the advice of his cabinet.
 the real way the president influences government is to
place like-minded people into positions of power and
influence.  this should really worry the bush haters
because he's has occassion to install many people into all
corners of the US government. 

this is all pretty subjective... coming from an outsider
looking in... (I live in the US but am not affiliated
directly with the United States government.)

your opinion probably differs :)

Yeah, but the U.S. election system is rather weird: it's
not that each voice
is counted as one voice (if they are counted to the end at
all).  Maybe a
native speaker can explain that better than I can

I am not sure that this goes to the bottom of the question,
however.
Methinks, Bush is not the one who really runs the nation.
  I doubt that the
president (or the chancellor for that matter) really has as
much power as is
suggested by the media.  The real power structures are
hidden and I think
they point to corporate interests.

But if he was ... never forget, Hitler was elected too.
 Only after he was
elected he managed to suspend futher elections.  (Before I
rouse an outcry of
indignation -- I am NOT comparing Bush with Hitler; it 's
only concerning the
point that rulers in democracies are elected; so was
Hitler, that's all I
want to say).

Dagmar

Jan Larsson wrote:

> doesnt the US have stuff like the senate ... where people
get elected
> ... that doesnt match very well with the definition of
"corporatism"
> does it?
>
> the leaders of US/EU are hardly fascists me thinks
(however unlikeable,
> incompetent and back-stabing they might be), in fact
merzbow could well
> be elected to the next president of the US (or to run the
finances of
> France) ... that sort of rules out those definitions..
> .
>
> tWhile I do not agree with many if not most of my
president's foreign=20
> >> policies, I think it's a real stretch to say that
fascism exists here
> >> in the=
> >> US.
> > rather than debate this with you I'll let an expert
outline fascism for
> > you...sound familiar?
> >
> >   "Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism as it
is a merge
> > of state and corporate power."
> >     - Benito Mussolini
> >
> >    "Fascism conceives of the State as an absolute, in
comparison
> > with which all individuals or groups are relative, only
to be
> > conceived in
> > their relation to the State."
> >        - Benito Mussolini
> >
> >
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