Re: [microsound] micropolitics

["::\)" <r3dshift@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

oh man that second link is great!

thanks!

(I agree, the story seems like bullshit.  more like the works of The Onion)

-joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Björn Eriksson" <nowerik@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "microsound" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [microsound] micropolitics

Most likely the below ctrl-c'd news announcement isn't true... Read
carefully and you should see why. But please do check Christo's and
Jeanne-Claude's own home page at http://www.christojeanneclaude.net/  There
is among lots of other things there a comprehensive interview with the
artists. I also found
http://prelectur.stanford.edu/lecturers/christo/errors.html to be
informative on their art.
yours,
/björn e
Christo Announces New Project
2/24/03

  (Reuters) World famous artists Christo and Jeanne-Claude have today
announced a new project that is slated to be begin immediately. Responding
to U.S. Homeland Defense Secretary Ridge's call for artists to rally the
cause through anti-terrorist art, Christo has received permission to wrap
the White House in Washington D.C., using duct tape and plastic sheeting.
Much like the artist's 1995 project "Wrapped Reichstag" in Berlin, "Wrapped
White House" will, according to the artists' plan, seal the building and
those inside. Of the project the artists said, "We are very excited to use
our art making methods in the international fight against terrorists. By
wrapping the White House we hope to help keep terrorism under wraps, so to
speak." Unlike "Wrapped Reichstag" which was a temporary project, "Wrapped
White House" will be the artists' first permanent work of public art.
  100,000 square meters (1,076,000 square feet) of clear high-strength
polypropylene plastic, and 15,600 meters (51,181 feet) of silver duct tape,
13.2 cm (4 inch) wide, will be used for the wrapping of the White House. The
work will be completed in as little as one week. The artist' s have
contacted other artists across the U.S. who are now in-route to Washington
D.C. in order to finish this work in record time. Materials have been
provided without charge by the German Government. Recalling the "Wrapped
Reichstag," German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder stated, "Wrapping the symbol
of German Democracy was a defining moment for the new Germany. Wrapping the
White House will likewise be a defining moment as democracy is restored in
America."

----- Original Message -----
From: "::)" <r3dshift@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "microsound" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [microsound] micropolitics

> that IS kinda funny, I bet echelon catches all kinds of microsound MP3s in
> which it finds mathematical sequences and probably flags them for followup
> :P
>
> I'd also be interested in christo wrapping the white house.  christo
rules!
>
> -Joe
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Björn Eriksson" <nowerik@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "microsound" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [microsound] micropolitics
>
>
> > Have any artists made anything creative with the Echelon system? This I
> > think could be a very interesting approach. I might have missed alot on
> > this, but I think there has not been so much creative art concerning
this
> > worlds largest ears.
> >
> > http://www.echelonwatch.org/
> >
> > and another one
> > Some weeks ago there was some messages floating around that Christo had
> got
> > permission to wrap the white house in plastic, but i could not get no
more
> > info on that...
> >
> > yours,
> > björn eriksson / sweden
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard Costelloe" <rcostelloe@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "microsound" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:25 PM
> > Subject: RE: [microsound] micropolitics
> >
> >
> > All things Muslimgauze!! I think he exemplifies political music. He
> > certainly could have been more communicative about his motives though,
> > generally it takes some digging. I'm not aware of any good literature
> > or theory at this point though.
> >
> > I tend to agree that separating art from politics both on this list and
in
> > general is
> > a step towards redundancy. Aesthetics for the sake of aesthetics is
grand,
> > but often just occurs to me generally as masturbation. It's a personal
> thing
> > too.
> > I've been fairly active in both local artist and activist groups for a
> > while,
> > and am constantly pissed that I never run into the same people at both.
> >
> > The artists are ignoring what is going on in the world, and the
activists
> > are ignoring the art.. Though it strikes me that we're all in the same,
> > marganilized
> > boat. I cannot begin to imagine the amount of energy that would be
> > created if all the amazingly talented artists became socially aware and
> > active.
> > And likewise, if all the hardcore activists I know would stop listening
to
> > the same cliché peace-pop and give support to the artists around them.
> >
> > (Read in the paper today that the Dixie Chics (I guess fairly popular
> group)
> > are being black-listed in the US radio community (i.e. ClearChannel)
> because
> > one of them said something bad about Bush...
> > http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=dixie
> > Is this an acceptable collusion of art & politics???)
> >
> > Just went to a war protest in Denver on Saturday. They played Lennon's
> > "Imagine"
> > three times... I was ready to kill someone. I think political activism
> > desparately needs to dragged from the '70's to the current age, both in
> > theory
> > and practice. Embracing technology (hactivism?) and contemporary
aesthetic
> > theory into this
> > 'movement' is an exciting possiblity. - R
> >
> >
> >
> > >microsounders,
> >
> > >since this list was set up to discuss all things philosophical,
aesthetic
> > >and digital/post-digital/microsound (or whatever sounds good today) I
> don't
> > >think there is any need to separate politics and the creation of music
on
> > >this list...if you want something less philosophically rigorous and
more
> > >about cool new software and gear then I suggest you try another list...
> > >
> > >but if you are interested in music and politics I can suggest reading
> > >"Noise" by Jacques Attali or 'Society of the Spectacle' by Guy Debord
> > <http://www.bopsecrets.org/SI/debord/index.htm> to get a bearing on how
> > >politics and music intersect...
> > >
> > >any other recommendations for list members?
> >
> > >KIM
> >
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