Re: [microsound] go to roosia boy

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fgrecs@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

>America doesn't want or need an empire. 
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America already has an empire.

> It is the delusional left who
>cries that it is making one.  Unlike crazed socialist types who dream of
>nothing but empires, the US is interested in itself like any other
>country is.  Money people aside (they tend to hang out in their own
>circles, kinda like scenesters who spend too much time in one genre of
>music), the government is not a tool of evil.  A few bad apples does not
>mean eradication of the orchard.
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No it's a tool of self-interest as you say.  Might makes right.  This is 
why al Qaeda attacked the WTC.  I guess if you want to adopt the 
Machiavellian line, there's no point crying over that one either.

>Diplomacy?  A code word for "...we're (French and Russians) just as
>dirty in our dealings with Iraq but don't have the guts to admit that we
>do business with tyrants."  Spare me.
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No doubt.  But their populations are also very opposed to the war. 
 Maybe just maybe, they might have been listening to their constituents.

>And as for the world being against him, I don't think you've asked
>anyone in Eastern Europe about this.  The only ones who cry are the ones
>who have conveniently forgotten how crappy it is to live under a tyrant.
>And don't even bother saying GWB is anything close to one.  A hick and a
>boob on occasion, maybe, but nothing even close to tyrant.
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There are a lot of other tyrants besides Saddam Hussein.  The Saudi 
regime is pretty awful.  Sharon is terrible, though certainly 'elected.' 
 The junta in Myanmar.  It's funny but these people are never on the news

>It must be sad to know you're being marginalized.
>
When the center starts to become aligned with fascism, it's a blessing, 
actually.

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will 
eventually come to believe it.   The lie can be maintained only for such 
time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic 
and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally 
important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for 
the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the 
truth is the greatest enemy of the State." -- Joseph Goebbels, German 
Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945

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