Re: [microsound] OT See men shredded, then say you don't back war

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To cut things very short: The US has no UN vote for war in Iraq.
It is breaking law of nations by fighting a preventive war.
I'm not really interested why or with whom.  A superpower offensively 
ignoring international law in this wide range is opening spaces for a 
completely new world order, and I'm sure that this will not be based on 
love and understanding...

billashline@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

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> fgrecs@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
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>>  I beg to differ on your genetic fallacy statement, however. Those who
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>> love to slander the US overseas get their ideas about the US and are as
>> pig-ignorant about how things work here as some Yankees are
>> embarrassingly deficient in their knowledge of anything outside of their
>> city.  It is the same the world over.  Toqueville is an extremely high
>> standard to set for the rabble that wish ill will toward America.
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> Well, what should they know about the US, Rudy?  That the US is a 
> republic and not a democracy?  Or that they should understand that the 
> US reserves the right to ignore international law as it sees fit but 
> expects others to abide by it as it sees fit?  Is that how you feel 
> about people who have double standards?  Hussein has flaunted 17 UN 
> resolutions.  Israel has done so 64 times with US backing.  Is that 
> how "things work here?"
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> You can't whine about being understood when you're a Machiavellian.  
> All you can do is flex muscle.  and likewise, you can't whine when 
> others go Machiavellian and flex theirs with you.  the world doesn't 
> wish ill will toward the US.  The world only wishes that the US would 
> get a taste of its own medicine.  I think the best way would be 
> economic.  Let's see the Middle East countries switch to petro-euros 
> from petro-dollars and then let's see a new world economic order 
> develop that cuts the US out of the pie for awhile.  That's the best 
> Machiavellian result.  And when it happens, you can't cry :-)
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>> That is the fault of those who exchange democracy and republic as
>> interchangeable words.  The school systems here suck, and you should
>> know this.  But it's not so much better in Europe, despite what some of
>> our European mates might say (and this coming from one who received
>> primary education there).
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> Oh I'd say it's a lot more than the school systems in the US.  I'd say 
> it has a lot more to do with ideology.  After all, Rudy, not everyone 
> is as decent as you and wears their fascism out there for all to see.  
> Most of the right in the states like to pretend to be democrats and 
> care about what the people think.
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> I find your politics pretty odious, but I do give you a lot of credit. 
> At least you come right out and situate yourself.  That's far better 
> than most.  Unfortunately, for you, this means you will now have to 
> endure a lot of lefty stuff from this list in mostly isolation, and 
> when you complain about it, knowing where you're coming from, we'll 
> now be able to ignore you.  :-)
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