Re: [microsound] idea: touring laptop musicians forum

[Neil Wiernik <neil@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

yeah well Im refering to both Ive had some real silly requests money wise
from artist who only have mp3 releases or cd-r releases... also...
but there is always a dimond in the rough who will come out to play just
for thier expensises just because they ant to play... thats sort of my
deal personally if i know someone isnt making money off me Ill play for
trasnport costs and a couch to crash on nay time but more and more often
artists are not willing to do this... its quite sadhonestly as some
artists just dont have a grasp of the reality of it all...
or are in general just gready...

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Andrew Jones wrote:

> actually i wasn't referring to bigger artists, mostly the smaller
> ones off cd-r labels with no idea that your average artists gets less
> than 700 a gig.
> if you make a list like this it would be cool to have the
> promoter report how much the guarantee was and if they broke
> even.
>
> -
> a
>
>
> On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 06:47 PM, Neil Wiernik wrote:
>
> >
> > yeah this is my point, what you are experinceing is what more or less
> > killed clonk after I moved here to montreal...
> > an artist run entity like clonk and others like that could never meet
> > the
> > expectations of artists who get treated better by the higher paying
> > clubs
> > and festivals... how ever the flip side to that is that the big clubs
> > and
> > festivals dont treat artists with a hometown flair like us smaller
> > artist
> > run entities do...
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Andrew Jones wrote:
> >
> >> as a promoter I could imagine this as a disaster waiting to happen.
> >> I already get enuff e-mails from DJs who want us to fly them in
> >> and pay them absurd amounts of money. being hit up 3 - 4
> >> times a day by artists with unrealistic expectations isn't
> >> exactly a fun idea. But at the same time it might help
> >> some places you wouldn't think have nice venues and scenes
> >> get some well known artists.
> >>
> >> -
> >> A
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 06:06 PM, Michal Seta wrote:
> >>
> >>> Kim Cascone wrote:
> >>>> the list would be for touring laptop musicians ONLY
> >>>
> >>> you mean no desktop?
> >>>
> >>>> and membership would be
> >>>> gained through prior approval
> >>>
> >>> By who?  What criteria?
> >>>
> >>> Also, why should such list not be made public?  There are several
> >>> positive
> >>> outcomes I could think of.  If venues/places/people are to be
> >>> avoided,
> >>> I
> >>> think anyone should be aware.  Same goes for the attractive
> >>> places/people/locations.
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