RE: [microsound] public space vs McDisney

[rick <microsound@xxxxxxxxx>]

It's not like Europeans just decided to live quaint little urban lives, their countries are very small and so there isn't much country to move out to. The US is a tremendously large country. I don't see why people think it is so bad that some people want to escape the stress of the city and move to more pastoral settings. 



I haven't spent much time in Europe, but American cities contain a lot of friction. Yes, the melting pot is a beautiful thing on the macro level but the micros are often rough and/or violent. It's almost impossible to do anything in NY without encountering some kind of hassble. Nonetheless, people in NY do walk around outside a lot and many of them do not own cars. 



Comparing the US to Europe is very much apples and oranges and yet everyone on the list seems to act like the differences are intentional, caused by correct vs incorrect decision making and aesthetic preference. There are deeper causes for the way things are than perceived American tackiness...





 --- On Wed 03/31, Kim Cascone < kim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote:

From: Kim Cascone [mailto: kim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

To: microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 08:36:40 -0800

Subject: [microsound] public space vs McDisney



> There are so many possible reasons.  The US is such a spread out car-based<br>> culture with very little sense of public space.<br>% when I travel in Europe I notice this immediately...I tend to spend much<br>more time outdoors there than I do here in the US...this doesn't mean hiking<br>in the woods but walking in the city, spending time in outdoor cafe's,<br>hanging out in public squares/plaza's, walking in parks, etc...there isn't<br>as much of a tendency to 'nest' there as there is in the US...<br><br>%% and I also find the 'fringe music' scenes in Europe (e.g.,<br>electronic/computer music, avant-jazz, modern classical, new music, world,<br>etc) to be thriving more than here...<br><br><br><br>---------------------------------------------------------------------<br>To unsubscribe, e-mail: microsound-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<br>For additional commands, e-mail: microsound-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<br>website: http://www.microsound.org<br><br>

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