[microsound] life after nato (it flourishes)

[Gregory Taylor <gtaylor@xxxxxxxx>]

From: John McCaig <freejohn@xxxxxxxxx>

> Subject: Re: [microsound] [OT] nato?
> Message-ID: <742e62a80407260448698ba5d2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> link 1: http://www.bootsquad.com/nato/
> link 2: http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2002/03/01/netochka/index.html
>
> now everyone uses jitter: http://www.cycling74.com/products/jitter.html
> as it is supported, easy to find, and etc
Caveat lector: I am rather closely related to Jitter, Cycling '74,
et. al. So I am hardly unbiased, okay? Yes, Jitter is in wide use.
It's available for both Macintosh and Windows platforms now,
too. Although I hope I can be forgiven for some bias, I like it
quite a lot. But you probably would like a bigger picture. There
are end-user applications that have Max/MSP/Jitter purring
beneath the hood these days (I'm sure there are more, and would
apologise to those I've left out). The first and easiest is something
you can download and use for free. It's Josh Goldberg's Dervish:

http://goldbergs.com/dervish/

Several excellent commercial applications are out there, too.
You could certainly start with these:

http://www.lividinstruments.com/
http://www.vidvox.net/

But if you're thinking of nato in terms of the object/connection
paradigm and the opportunity to build your own personal
instruments rather than end-user apps, then you could look at
these. Note that although Jitter is decidedly a dual-platform
affair these days, not all of the third-party objects have yet
been ported to the Windows environment. That's all going
to be changing, since the word appears to have gotten out
that Jitter is fast and wonderful on Windows systems (owing,
in part, to fast and wide memory bus stuff).

In addition to Jitter itself, Kurt Ralske has created a marvellous
set of Jitter objects that some users who are/were familiar with
nato have really found to their liking. I like them quite a lot, and
am not even a paid spokesweasel (I paid *him.*). Although
it's currently Mac-only, Kurt's reported to be porting them to Windows
(he may already be done. I've not been in touch with him laterly,
owing to the release of Max/MSP 4.5 and its attendant disruptions
in my sleeping and waking schedule....)

http://auv-i.de/

David Rokeby is the first among us who used Max/MSP in
a serious way with video stuff with his old Very Nervous
System. His own set of Max objects, SoftVNS, are in wide
use and produce lovely results. It's Macintosh only (note: be
sure and check out the baby pictures)

http://homepage.mac.com/davidrokeby/softVNS.html

Another completely non-Max/MSP approach to working
interactively with images is Isidora from the Troika Ranch
folks.

http://www.troikatronix.com/isadora.html

And if you're the open source type, you can always go with
Pd.

http://zwizwa.fartit.com/pd/pdp/overview.html
http://ydegoyon.free.fr/pidip.html

There you go. That's certainly not all your choices, but I wanted
to give you the impression that the discourse has broadened
considerably since OSX happened and nato went away. I think
that there are now solutions for a wide variety of abilities and
temperaments in terms of programming environments and end
user applications stuff.

with regards,
gregory




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