Re: [microsound] our first .microsound poll

[Bill Jarboe <billjarboe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

on 9/30/04 2:49 PM, Arie van Schutterhoef at arsche@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

>> Cage was just a faggot folk hero
> -In regard to to the question put forward,
> I wonder what importance can be attached to
> his sexual inclination.

 -don't know. I see it as a form of socializing in order to win favours.
Music was one tool in an arsenal of tricks.He was someone who was good at
provoking envy by playing the role of the adventurer , the free man, one who
showed the promise and the road to freedom.

  Although some of his work is very good , thought provoking etc. , to me
most of it doesn't really function without the essays , the explanation.
 
  This is different than something which might suddenly sound , completely
out of context , and function, be understood.

 He wasn't bad, and he might agree with me that he was someone capable of
refreshing my memory in a rudimentary way about what I already know.


>> Xenakis a shell-shocked architect who liked to make lots of noise.
> -And noise is regarded as an important part of sound.
> He was also quite important in defining the usage
> of granular synthesis.

Yes.

 Once again I don't see him as being worthless. Through his work he appears
to me in the form of someone who connects to the sound environment in the
manner of an architect. There is no crime in that , and I don't see him as a
lesser being in that respect. I understand music to be the great art form ,
having its own manner of creating space , buildings , architecture.

 Even if I accept the definition of music as applied mathematics , there is
an intrinsic manner of applying those numbers to sound production. It seems
to be a gift some people find at an early age. Granted , it might be buried
in almost everyone , even if they don't consider themselves musicians. With
Xenakis although his mathematics may be complex and far reaching in a
non-musical sense , I am more interested in what is purely musical (since
the survey is about musical influence) which is something closer to a direct
or immediate expression of emotion through numbers manifested in sound.
> 
 
>>Stockhausen is a real man, the kind who can rewind a tape recorder and
>>still think clearly .
>-As long as it concerns himself...
> He still thinks that hte Beatles are 'a modern popband'...

AvS

 Interesting that you mention Stockhausen with the Beatles.

 I remember listening to 'Hymnen' and also 'Sargeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts
Club Band' . Parts of both albums having strong effects on animals (cats
mostly) ; scrambling up the walls for instance, where every other record
didn't seem to make much of an impression.

 Anyway , I hope you're having a good day , or whatever you're having .



                   
                              Bill


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