Re: [microsound] early cd skipping

[Mika Martini <mikamartini@xxxxxxxxx>]

ESP: Muy bien dicho, Julio. Desde Chile un saludos. Mika Martini.
ENG (or something similar): Very well saying, Julio. From Chile greetings. Mika Martini.

julio d'escrivan <julde@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I am very interested in your point... many times in latinamerica we 
come to things that just cannot be circunscribed in the
"global" media/communications circuit, even in the times of internet, 
so our history tends to be a patchwork of local anecdotes and folklore,
plus some really learned guys who again have a mostly very academic 
circle which renders their valuable insights almost null by lack of
quorum.

A lot of music experimentation and local production is invisible to 
the rest of the world... and I assume it will be the same in
other parts of the world that a) don't speak english as their main 
language and b) are developing their economy. This is just the opinion 
of a musician
but I think that "history" nowadays is defined by the economically 
prevallent english speaking countries, which is not to say that lots of 
things are not happening in other parts and go largely unreported. So I 
would place very little importance on concepts like "innovation" as 
this is hard to define in view of what I wrote above. It seems that 
things "don't exist" till you guys "discover it", since you have the 
means and the economic/political stability to diffuse your art and 
critically reflect upon it. Don't get me wrong, I for one am grateful 
that somebody can do it !! it's just that sometimes I wish statements 
were a bit less pretentious and more open as a recognition to the 
musics we(you) don't yet know.

all the best,

Julio.




On 14 Dec 2004, at 19:35, Peter Price wrote:

> You have made the point I am interested in examining, which is how 
> historical memory and issues of precedence become inscribed. How does 
> one situate their own practice against history as it is curated by 
> those who are in the cultural position to curate?
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2004, at 12:40 AM, Ian Andrews wrote:
>
>> I produced a track with CD skipping in 1986. I would not regard 
>> myself as a
>> pioneer, nor do I think that the track was particularly innovative in 
>> regard
>> to the context of the time, a context in which experimentation with 
>> the
>> malfunction of analogue and emerging digital equipment was widespread 
>> within
>> the community of experimental electronic music. Many of us were 
>> sawing into
>> records and gluing them back together, using damaged cassette decks, 
>> radios,
>> VCRs, whatever. It was not a radical step to do the same with CDs.
>>
>> The track was released on cassette (Zeroville) in 1987 on Lymph and 
>> later
>> re-released on CCP.
>>
>> peace-out
>>
>> ian
>>
>> Peter Pricewrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone have any info on the earliest examples of the sound of
>>> skipping cd's or other clearly digital "glitch" oriented process as a
>>> compositional device?
>>>
>>> The usual reference is to Oval in the "early 90's," but as the CD is 
>>> an
>>> early 80's technology I figure there must be recorded examples of
>>> people abusing cd's in the 80's.
>>>
>>> Anyone?
>>>
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