Re: [microsound] Lemur!

[Kevin Ponto <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> The sound is the art, the virtuosity is the skilled manual use of a
> pre-industrial tool.

So is art reduced to craft when skilled manual use of tools are 
involved? If that's the case, then there's a lot less art and a lot 
more craft out there than I thought. Since the sound is the art, how is 
the person directly creating the sound not an artist? See below for 
some elaboration on this.

>   every person you know who likes music can read music ?

of course not... and I'm not sure what you mean by this. Could you 
elaborate?

>  Not every person who
> can play an instrument is an "artist" , are you suggesting they are?

They produce art, why wouldn't they be? Do you suggest that since 
someone else wrote the score, the musician isn't responsible for 
producing the art? If this is the case, what if I gave a musician 
broader guidelines than a traditional score, like, "Play this sequence 
of notes at any tempo you like." or "Play something in G."? Who is then 
responsible for the art that is produced?

> I know lots of
> shit musicians, myself included , I would not suggest that they are all
> Beethovens.

A shit artist is still an artist, and if Beethoven is the bar one must 
reach to be considered an artist, then I'm not sure there are any 
artists on this list ;)

Perhaps our definitions of "artist" differ. I would say that an artist 
is someone that produces art, regardless of what triggers it, be it a 
score or someone saying "Play something in G" or something they see on 
the street that sparks an idea. It's just different levels of 
influence, in my opinion.

kp


On Feb 10, 2005, at 5:15 PM, JPaul23@xxxxxxx wrote:

> In a message dated 11/02/2005 01:10:25 GMT Standard Time,
> kevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
> > So, is the art the score or the sound that comes from the violin? If 
> > it
> > is just the score, why do we need to play it? If it is the sound 
> > coming
> > from the violin, the player interprets the score to produce the art,
> > and is thusly an artist. Give the same score to several different
> > violinists and you'll end up with several different pieces of music.
> > The score just serves as a template for the musician to interpret.
>
>  They can
> all interpret scores and place a bit of themselves in there?
>
>
>
>
> "He who has rejected his demons badgers us to death with his angels"
> Henri Michaux
>
> www.flickr.com/photos/jpaul23/


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