Re: [microsound] podcasting/audioblogs/net.radio/p2p

[{ brad brace } <bbrace@xxxxxxxxxx>]

thanks derek!

[I prefer to make long-ish recordings that encompass a
confluence of evolving sounds: an implicit duration. But, I
want to avoid making more (art) products: I have too many
items in my attic as it is. Hence the ongoing web-stream:
which I listen to regularly. I'm liking the idea of offering
'make-your-own' mp3s as podcasts.]

(o) 10 sec starting now
(o) 60 sec starting now
(o) 90 sec starting now


/:b


On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, derek holzer wrote:

> Hi Brad,
>
> a less technical and more philospohical answer, just to warn you ;-)
>
> In devil's advocate brevity: how necessary is webstreaming anymore?
>
> One thing that I saw as a possible advantage of "Podcastimg" over
> streaming is in some ways the compromise between the live and the
> archived. I can't remember the last time I sychronized my watch in order
> to catch a webstream live form some place or another, but I CAN count
> how many times I've looked back at my Inbox and gone "damn! I can't
> beleive I missed Patrick McGinley's show on Resonance (again and again
> and again and again...). In such a case, a podcast might be much more
> preferable to a live stream.
>
> I also recall the days of doing net.radio in Prague, where the average
> nightly listenership was between 0 and 3, but we would get lots of
> people hitting the archives over the next week or so.
>
> A "podcast" still has a "live" enough feel because you just found out
> about it, but you still don't need to be "right there" to catch it. The
> compromise of course is that with a "podcast" you don't have that
> possibility of live interaction via chat or simply by
> streaming/uploading something back to the sender to contribute in that
> moment.
>
> I do wonder about the need for much of what is streamed live to really
> be live unless the "audience" can cease to be that and instead be
> participant. Without that "media without an audience" kind of feeling,
> most webstreams just imitate one-to-many broadcast-model media such as
> radio or TV. At their best, however, they might show an inimate
> connection between two people, such as Michael Mandiberg and Julia
> Steinmetz's INnetwork project:
>
> http://turbulence.org/Works/innetwork
>
> "I broadcast, therefore I am"
> derek
>
>
> { brad brace } wrote:
> > 1. Lovely!
> >
> > 2. Would it be possible to serve-up a variety of lengths for
> >    (somewhat random) podcasts from the mp3-stream? ie., the
> >    listener might choose between a number of buttons
> >    indicating the size of download 'for the moment.'
> >
> > /:b
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Aaron Ximm wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Two comments on podcasting:
> >>
> >>1. I just created one for the One-Minute Vacation page on my site.
> >>
> >>A new 60 sec unedited field recordings from submitters like you every
> >>Monday. Participation is encouraged.
> >>
> >>Project home:
> >> http://www.quietamerican.org/vacation.html
> >>
> >>New (beta) podcast:
> >> http://www.quietamerican.org/vacation.xml
> >>
> >>2. Re Brad's question...
> >>
> >>
> >>>Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:04:49 -0800 (PST)
> >>>From: { brad brace } <bbrace@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>
> >>>Is it possible to podcast mp3-streams?
> >>>Can this be done with rss-2 by somehow attaching the
> >>>streamed-audio-url? (http://63.170.215.11:8000 )
> >>
> >>Seems unlikely? If it's a non-terminating stream, how would the aggregator
> >>know when to stop capturing...?
> >>
> >>The RSS <enclosure> tag that AFAIK "drives" podcasting has a length
> >>argument in it; the RSS2 specs I could find say that length is mandatory,
> >>but who knows if it's cross-referenced or used for sanity checking by
> >>aggregators though... eg Firefox's "Sage" extension for RSS feeds ignores
> >>the tag entirely, which means you don't get the MP3s!
> >>


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