Re: [microsound] Re: outsider artists

[jeff gburek <tsazmaniac@xxxxxxxxx>]

something that occurs to me is that if outsider art
became trendy in the 80 (almost with the rise of
trendy acadmeic post-modernist discourse)the outsiders
(eg Darger, Wolfli) maybe uniquely continued to see
their process as a kind of spiritual salvation--Darger
certainly was monitoring very complex tissues of inner
dimensionality--whereas the post-modern is that which
finds every artefact culturally contructed--maybe then
outsider art--the system of definers be damned--is
really that frontier of artists who believe they can
access only through their work some kind of
transcendant realm...risky...
jeff gburek
www.djalma.com   
--- tasty radish <tastyradish@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> it's art-speak that the art institutions (the whole
> network of galleries and museums, blue chip and
> otherwise), came up with to describe 'artists' who
> do
> stuff outside of the system of getting mfa's,
> galleries, museum group and/or solo shows, "emerging
> artists" (which means that you haven't had a solo
> show
> yet, btw, in institutional art-speak).  it was a
> whole
> late 80's trendy, exciting scene to focus on
> "outsider
> art". Darger is the best known, from that period.
> There were many others championed. Like a guy who
> made
> incredibly intricate images on bottle caps, while he
> was in prison. Etc.   One of the main things that
> these "outsider" artists often have in their work,
> is
> a kind of personal, over-the-top, mystical
> language/fantasy-world that lives in their works,
> whether it be children in some weird world, or
> whatever ...And not much knowledge or particularly
> concerned/strong interest in developing what we call
> fine art in a conciousness-thread, sense of public
> space. In other words, art history in the
> traditional
> sense (unlike say Duchamp, or Harry Smith, Partch,
> Ives, etc.) doesn't have much to do with how to
> receive the works, or how the artists conceptualize
> or
> execute them, much at all. They are much more
> personal
> then public in a way.  
> 
> Just offering a contextualized, brief-historical
> view
> to what "outsider" art is. On a personal impression
> note, I'de say outsider is work that has a strong
> degree of personal fantasy and little concern with
> art
> history/public "fine art". 
> 
> -A
> 
> 
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