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[microsound] ON TOPIC, or why do men start fires >?<
"right, the fuck , on"
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--- graham miller <grahammiller@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> THIS is EXACTLY the kind of links that people should
> be allowed to post here,
> regardless of list.
>
> is is NOT necessarily self-promotion but rather a
> POTENTIAL BASIS for the
> kind(s) of philosophical discussions on music and
> microsound culture that are
> supposedly supposed to happen here.
>
> how is anyone supposed to discuss anything unless
> there is some kind of FIRST
> CAUSE, whether that's a post, a picture or a piece?
>
> trying to make it to a gig halfway around the world
> is one thing...
>
> but i'm all for artists posting links to their
> work...
>
> otherwise, you end up with endless debates as to the
> conversational power of a
> stoplight...
>
> i USED to actually find out information here. and
> links would generate
> discussion. whether it was an article, a MAX/MSP
> patch, a new label or piece
> of software, sounds from space, MP3s, AIFFs, WAVs,
> MPEGS, WMVs... i mean,
> honestly, what the hell does twiki have to do with
> anything music? i don't
> even know what a twiki is, but i'm pretty sure
> they'd be happier in the wild
> and not in a cage.
>
> this whole no links bullshit (for fear of being
> BANNED to the furthest reaches
> of the internet) seems to prioritize the written
> word, online reading lists, or
> ink and paper, as the first cause from which
> discussion is to stem... so
> fucking university, it's makes me sick. let's get
> into actual art itself as
> the basis for discussion... NOT what's been written
> about it... i have to deal
> with that kind of intellectually removed bullshit on
> a daily basis elsewhere...
>
> with these kinds of global online groups there's the
> potential to engage music,
> musicians and artist on a GRASSROOTS level... you
> get the benefit by BYPASSING
> the record label filters, the publishing company
> filters, the 'taste' filters,
> and go straight to the source and dialogue directly
> with the artists
> themselves... why aren't we talking advantage of
> that? why do you think all the
> musician have left here?
>
> why can't people talk about their own work? WTF?
> it's hard enough for our kind
> of music to get any kind of recognition as it is...
>
> i for one would love to have people like twerk,
> sutekh, deadbeat back here... i
> can even deal with taylor dupree's spacebar static
> just to make everyone happy.
>
> i highly doubt john cage is going to post anything
> here anytime soon... or
> xenakis or even fucking curtis roads for that
> matter... let's deal with the
> artists that are:
>
> A) alive
>
> B) online
>
> C) post here
>
> to be honest, the kind of draconian enforcement of
> some kind ambiguous
> manifesto drafted to serve the intents of a handful
> of people (which only post
> on microsound to remind people NOT to post on
> microsound) has driven away
> contribution, NOT encouraged it. meanwhile it seems
> fine to have a signature
> file with a dozen hyperlinks... i have no problem
> with that and i personally
> check out everybody's work and find it a great
> source of encouragement and
> inspiration.
>
> anyway, this has been bugging me for a while and i'd
> hate to see a new poster
> chastised for contributing links to their work...
>
> i've kept every single microsound post on my
> computer for the past four years
> or whatever i've been here... there is definitely a
> difference and i hardly
> think the solution is have less posts rather than
> more...
>
> art and artists come first. theory comes later.
> discussion comes later. that's
> the way it's always been.
>
> let's see more links. and then let's talk about
> them? cool? cool.
>
> graham.
>
>
>
> Joseph Scott wrote:
>
> > I have posted some digital photos that I modified
> using basic techniques in
> > free photo editing software. The photos often
> resemble visual equivalents of
> > microsound works, hence me posting the link here:
> >
> >
>
http://pub48.bravenet.com/photocenter/album.php?usernum=4063395084
> >
> > If other people on this list are also involved
> with innovative visual art
> > and have works online, please post links on the
> list or offlist to me.
> >
> >
>
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