Re: [microsound] hotline server?

[Julian Knowles <julianknowles@xxxxxxx>]

> > On 13/06/2005, at 12:18 PM, John Nowak wrote:
> > > I'm not paying for such a client, especially when an FTP server and 
> > > IRC (and perhaps a forum) would do just as well, if not better, with 
> > > tools people are more familiar with.
<smip>
> Well I already have IRC open anyway, so it is just another tab. Then 
> add an IRC client. You'd not need a browser at all.

The forum would require a web browser... thus I was counting up three 
separate software apps that you (and all other collaborators) would 
need to be running in order to have about a quarter of the 
functionality that you'd get in something like KDX or indeed Hotline.  
1) FTP = FTP client, 2) IRC = IRC client, 3) Forum = Web browser.

It's not practical and its too clumsy. This is why people design 
collaborative environments.

> > > KDX is also a hideously atrocious piece of crap, and the author is a 
> > > real ass.
> >
> > those are strong opinions. care to elaborate?  and have you 
> > communicated as such to the developer?
>
> The former speaks for itself.

The sentiment does, but the grounds on which you have made such an 
assessment do not. I would expect such a damning statement to be based 
on some specific criticisms of its performance.

I have found it to be fast, very low on CPU.bandwidth, extremely stable 
(not one crash). It just works. Given the amount of labour involved, I 
don't think $30 is an unreasonable shareware fee. Having dinner out can 
cost you more....

> It is terrible for interaction. You could use this mailing list 
> thought for interaction for the time being.

OK so we're in agreement on that. The movement of the sevs list to KDX 
was due to an assessment that the mailing list was a failure in terms 
of a tool for interaction. Too much noise, not enough content, too much 
'one-to-many'  from a limited number of more dominant voices and no 
opportunity for mixing the types of interaction.

> I'd also be more than happy to set up a forum.

Which, to be honest, is not much of an advance on a mailing list, other 
than it is threaded from the outset (although lately i've been trying 
gmail to see if it can help tame my list mail). It seems there is quite 
a bit of discussion on various lists as to the future survival of 
mailing lists as a form of communication and what emerging alternatives 
there may be.

cheers

julian




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