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Re: [microsound] escalators/seams



and also mean that a "loop" is a kind of way of
forcing narrativity into un-narrated materials. by
looping a sound we make its begining meet its end,
creating a kind of "false messiah" if you take my
meaning

--- jeff gburek <tsazmaniac@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> to reveal the seam is to make a reference to the
> medium and it is something in recorded music that i
> appreciate when done well, as opposed to the realism
> (illusion) associated with "fidelity"--it challenges
> you to be critical about your mode of reception.
> seamlessness is something that is also considered an
> element of classical virtuosity and worse yet
> "showmanship". i note a recent interview with keiji
> haino where he indicates "you must never let on that
> you have made a mistake when you are
> improvising"--which i think is something that
> reveals
> a lot about the performative ego-attitudes of some
> musicians. throughout the writings i have seen about
> the aesthetics of failure, rarely does anyone go so
> far into the critique that concept of mastery starts
> to tremble, as if to say that only the machine can
> declare the revolt against the intentions of the
> composer/player. but i would be interested what
> other
> people think about "the seam" in their music. i
> would
> even say this might be my first attempt to start a
> microsound list "project" discussion. one of the
> charges you could reasonably level against computer
> music concerns its aridity. but there is are places,
> the "seam" in the loop, for example, where otherness
> breathes into the space of constructed reality. i
> think this is an ineteresting structure to work
> through...
> 
> -jeff gburek
> 
> p.s. escalators, unlike elevators, are on a loop...
> 
> --- bryan garcia <brymoxine@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > i was referencing the space where the loop ends
> and
> > is
> > about to repeat.  there is a small gap.  nothing
> > that
> > hinders the piece.  but i can hear where the
> sample
> > begins anew.   some people prefer there to be a
> > seamless transition, while others just want a
> smooth
> > edit.  i think there is a slightly awkward space
> in
> > the loop sequence here, but one that enhances the
> > work, and certainly is not  a detractor.   i would
> > say
> > it fits conceptually as well, as it aided in my
> > appreciation of the moving images.   
> > 
> > what is the piece about to you > ? <   i dig the
> > muzak
> > as source material, but the moving images and
> > texture
> > of the music are far removed from the kitsch of
> > muzak.
> >   
> > 
> > b/g
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- devslashnull <dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > > the audio was sourced from example cd's provided
> > to
> > > me by Muzak, during 
> > > a time in which i worked at a company that
> > > subscribed to their service.
> > > 
> > > i did not ask for their permission. what do you
> > mean
> > > by the "hang time 
> > > in the loop"?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Dec 20, 2005, at 9:00 AM, bryan garcia wrote:
> > > 
> > > >   if this is
> > > > related to muzak, i would like to know more
> > about
> > > it.
> > > 
> > > 
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