Re: [microsound] music is the ultimate incorruptible

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hi

On 3/16/06, mat.the.w <craque@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'd like to point out that Cage's compositional technique is just as precise
> and controlled as Schoenbergs, if not more.

well, they differ a great deal in the manner in which pitches are
chosen [throwing the i-ching or working with pitch rows]. the article
was showing how the aleatoric aspect of cage's music actually produced
output that was in many ways similar to schoenbergs [no tonal
center[s], fragmented phrasing, no rhythmic pulse, ...].

btw, fwiw, this was a very hoity toity article that i read while in
music school many moons ago. in one of those academic journals. could
be taruskin, but my memory is not to be trusted in these matters ...

and although many have poo-poo-ed the equation of cage's music with
schoenberg, i think there is a similarity there. you just have to find
the right perspective to see it.

> Cage held Schoenberg in very high esteem

yes, cage studied with schoenberg.

i think the comparison is very instructive. taking the music from
these two- seemingly so opposite, but actually very connected to each
other in many ways [not the least of which is that they lived in the
same mileu for a time].

> Where Cage went further (and where he
> critisized Schoenberg) was to bring it outside of rhythmic control as well.

where cage went further is that he embraced zen! they won't teach that
in music school, but his exposure to suzuki had a profound impact in
the way he made music and lived his life.

see http://www.newalbion.com/artists/cagej/autobiog.html


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