Re: [microsound] an age of immaterial reproduction

[cyborgk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Well, I'm not interested in "music for capital".

But, creative work is WORK, it takes time, and I don't think it's wrong to
hope that people who are talented could be able to devote time to
realizing their artistic vision and developing their capabilities, rather
than only having music as a hobby. My talent is really squandered since I
spend the best part of my life in an office as an alienated laborer
pushing paper.

In the mean time, maybe musicians need to start organizing more
self-managed collectives, and find ways to make them economically
sustainable, so that workers together own the means of production and
share the rewards. This isn't something that should be done just for the
present, but as a way to look towards the future, and build institutions
that can provide a model for what post-revolutionary, non-capitalist
cultural organizations might look like.

~David


> i am hopefully not in the minority with the cry of no
> more music for capital...jeff gburek
>
> http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html
>
>
>>
>> you idea that anyone who would like to compose music
>> and earn kind of
>> a living off it should be forced to sell various
>> forms of meaningless
>> plastic riff-raff is (excuse me for saying what i
>> think here) idiotic.
>>
>>
>>
>> 8 mar 2006 kl. 07.33 skrev Graham Miller:
>>
>> > a business model for the future of all music
>> artists and an age of
>> > infinite downloadable reproduction:
>> >
>> > 1) a live experience cannot be recorded, even if
>> it is a recording
>> > of a live event. the old 'you had to be there to
>> believe it' saying
>> > will continue to pay musicians. but they have to
>> be performers and
>> > they have to make performance an experience worth
>> paying for... not
>> > the usual laptop bullshit... the old walter
>> benjamin idea of 'aura'
>> > will become even more important and intrinsic to
>> an artist's
>> > financial well-being.
>> >
>> > 2) peripheral crap, like t-shirts, hats, pins, and
>> limited edition
>> > posters... *material* souvenirs of that live
>> experience. the
>> > rolling stones have got this down to a science.
>> look at how a band
>> > like phish succeeds (they're millionaires) in a
>>
>
> j.ff gbk
>
> http://www.futurevessel.com/orphansound/
>
> http://www.mattin.org/desetxea.html
>
> http://www.djalma.com
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