On Jul 16, 2006, at 12:01 AM, devslashnull wrote:
the way that free-markets and capitalism are playing out globally cause a lot of pain. innocent people are killed in conflicts in the name of freedom, free markets, capitalism and greed.
no doubt about that - or that innocent people have lost their lives under every other type of political system too.
brutal stuff happens. and it is easy to sit and discuss mechanisms and reforms. but when people get angry and frustrated they will get violent. and then heads end up in baskets.
again, your basic premise is correct. but it doesn't have to inevitably lead to the result you have stated.
isn't that how we solve problems here in the ol usa?
maybe. i for one have never been there. quite a few others on this list too probably.
sorry folks for debasing the forum, this here free-market of ideas... perhaps this serves as a .microcosm of the real world.
again, maybe, but despite the free market of ideas, it seems this list is governed ultimately by a sense of decency and goodwill. and i'm always glad when i see that in the real world.
dóc | parvoart
On Jul 15, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Jason Hollis wrote:
Precisely my point in responding in kind to devslashnull's absurdities. I have exercised restraint up to this point. Apologies to those offended. ~ !J! http://www.endif.org http://www.crunchpod.com http://www.thirdwavecollective.com
Dear All, I strongly protest the use of such obscenities. I suggest this list to my students as one of the sources that have decent philosophic/ aesthetic discussions on music. The use of the word "fuck" and its usual accompaniments are the least of my concerns ......but telling people "their heads belong to a basket" or to "shut up". If we will tolerate this "O'Reilly Factor" behaviors, why don't we all shut up? Isn't that what they want? Sincerely, Tolga Tuzun On Jul 15, 2006, at 4:25 PM, Jason Hollis wrote:Excuse me? What fucking planet do you live on?
More the point, either back your shit up, little one, or shut the fuck up because all that you've done here is illustrate that you merely have a foul mouth.
Show us supporting evidence or keep your bullshit to yourself.
Fucktard.
~ !J! http://www.endif.org http://www.crunchpod.com http://www.thirdwavecollective.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "devslashnull" <dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "microsound" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 1:10 AM Subject: Re: [microsound] the system that works for the great deal of people
this is so fucking laughable.
safety nets, reform, regulation.
who is it that is thriving? take a look through the eyes of an economic phenomenologist.
bitch.
"thrivers" don't balance anything. and calling them mechanisms belies a life that has never been at the shit end of one of them.
fuck you. your head belongs in a basket.
:)
(these last two characters are to insinuate that I politely request amnesty from the mechanisms that may punish me for my proletarian dreams)
oh the democratic discourse. i get such a chubby.
On Jul 14, 2006, at 7:23 AM, Jason Hollis wrote:
How nice of you to provide us with such an UNBIASED reference. Marxist.com indeed. Good to see objectivity alive and well.
The answer to these problems is not communism - which clearly failed in every case where it was attempted, just as pure unregulated hands off laissez faire capitalism failed similarly - but in properly regulating businesses, providing social safety nets, and reforming the loopholes in the democratic system that allow politicians to be bought by special interests. To the extent that this balancing of mechanisms is implemented in a national structure, that nation thrives. Until such time as that happens, yes, these injustices will continue, even worsen.
~ !J! http://www.endif.org http://www.crunchpod.com http://www.thirdwavecollective.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Revolution #9" <hendrix@xxxxxxxx> To: "microsound lista" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 3:23 AM Subject: [microsound] the system that works for the great deal of people
http://www.marxist.com/usa-statistics-shock240506-2.htm
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