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Re: [microsound] Reverse Engineering Max/MSP Autechre (reaktor too)



Like i said in my previous post, i am conflicted about the whole topic. I do agree with with most all of the points you bring up. See my second post on where i differ ideologically, some of my examples are very similiar o the ones you just provided. I know its all relative and maybe i romanticize the whole process a bit too much. Its something i have mulled over from time to time for a while now...

Wish i was not at work and could discuss this in more detail. I think it is a great topic to discuss...



aLEKs



On Jul 12, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote:

Hallo,
aleks vasic hat gesagt: // aleks vasic wrote:

What is the point of emulating an autechre patch? Is it to sound like
them? Or learn from the process? I would think that with the
incredible amount of communities/resources on the internet that one can
educate themselves about Max/MSP/ PD/ Reaktor and create their own
process along the way.

However then why not learn from the masters themselves? I think it's great to be able to see how Autechre or whoever created their music, and trying to understand their approach is a valid thing to do, IMO. For example I once was trained as a saxophone player (I abandoned it) and of course I was rehearsing by playing Coltrane or Rollins soli. This must no be the end of it all of course, and one has to go beyond that, but as a learning exercise it is wonderful. Software like Max, Pd or Supercollider really encourages to start from a half-ready patch or even from a complete patch and mess with it, so this is a natural thing to do.

Another aspect is reuse of (parts of) other peoples patches. This is
dangerous ground of course, because there you're directly copying
something. But art doesn't get born in an empty space, and if you copy
the simpleFM-patch or even a more complicated patch, is this so
different from using a Yamaha DX7 to do 80s pop music? Personally I
encourage everyone to use my patches freely. Many of them are
available on http://pure-data.sf.net It makes me happy to see that
what was useful to me can be useful to others, too. And I'm sure,
others would do better music with these patches than me. So I don't
have a problem with that.

Ciao
--
 Frank Barknecht                 _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__

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