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Re: [microsound] confusion
Actually, today's posts made me think, and while I was doing my other
works (making music, translating the netlabel discussion on disquiet
and relaxing a bit between my flat's hot concrete walls) I came back
here time and time again to read your discussion as well.
I am a person who may someone regard as a silent one here, but I think
many of us reads that discussion and create their own opinions in
their minds which in many cases can be the agreeing or disagreeing
with points that are mentioned here.
for me, these are the last 2 comments above me and others which
summarise the facts about these problems.
yeah, there is myspace. yeah these social networks are a kind of
almost useless crazes to me. but yeah i have a myspace page and even
my label has one.
why? craque answered properly:
The way I look at it, the more people i can possibly reach with my
music, the better, so why not just let it ride and have some music up
on myspace for anybody to find?
and that's it. the one liner notes were indeed a bit annoying, but come on... :)
and i will check the music as well, i have seen the requests as well,
but now i have other stuff to do.
i kind of agree with the thoughts about the "mp3 ocean" that somehow
ruins everything maybe, but in these cases i always remember that how
many wonderful works i have met at netlabels and/or myspace pages or
anywhere online so far. it is worth browsing and checking. last but
not least, talk is needed as well.
all the best, and good night
Andras
Bitlab/Cod/VBR
2006/7/12, Randolph Jordan <randolph@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
On the subject of confusion...
Kim says:
"sharing music on the list is fine so long as it is not flagrant self-
promotion -- as in: selling CD's, promoting concerts, calls for
projects, etc. especially when done by those who contribute little/
nothing to the list aesthetically/philosophically but don't mind
using it as a poster kiosk for their activities..."
I'm confused about how calls for papers and works from artists OTHER
than one's self is considered the same as self-promotion. If the point
of this list is to share information and foster discussion, then what
could be more relevant than a call for others to offer their
contributions to a forum such as an upcoming conference or journal
issue?
Your main point about self-promotion seems to be tied to "selling." A
call for intellectual/artistic contributions is not a call to buy
anything. If your argument is that the discussion resulting from the
call for papers does not actually appear on this list, then that's
valid. But surely stimulating someone's intellect by offering a chance
to discuss issues related to microsound is far more appropriate than
posting a myspace link which is NOTHING if not self-promotion.
My two cents.
Randolph.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kim Cascone [mailto:kim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:03 PM
To: microsound_list
Subject: [microsound] confusion
> i find it odd that we're not allowed to post news about new releases
> on this board (a group based around MUSIC after all) but it's now day
> after day of nothing but MySpace advertisements.....
why? the three founders of this list (disclaimer: I am one of them)
did not want it to turn into the fanboy/gear slut list that many
others gravitate towards -- and this is why I moved all the people
who contribute zilch but wanna hawk their wares to the 'microsound-
announce' list...so you CAN post all your activities and CD's for
sale to your hearts content - and you can cross-post ad nauseam...
I don't see how someone forwarding a myspace link as being
similar...albeit it does add a certain amount of noise to the list
and detracts from any thoughtful discussion in and of itself...
sharing music on the list is fine so long as it is not flagrant self-
promotion -- as in: selling CD's, promoting concerts, calls for
projects, etc. especially when done by those who contribute little/
nothing to the list aesthetically/philosophically but don't mind
using it as a poster kiosk for their activities...
Announcing a myspace account is borderline promotion...but if someone
were able to script something that would take an email with a myspace
link embedded in it and update a web page with it - that would be
much more useful than whining about elitists and such...
and to the person who thinks myspace is a free market-driven
meritocracy: you're kidding, right?
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