Re: [microsound] I want myspace MTV

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Frank,

   You have some interesting points but I don't really "buy" the
comparison of ebay to myspace. 

For one this is assuming that musicians who are on myspace are there
primarily to sell music which is not really how it's setup and as far
as I know myspace does not directly profit from such ventures. However
Soundclick does if you use their commercial features to sell CD's.

FYI Soundclick.com is way better for musicians than myspace. Chekc it
out.

How many examples can you name of musicians who were successful solely
due to Myspace that were kicked off of it?

Ebay has a problem with not kicking off enough people especially those
who on a regular basis commit fraud. Part of the reason why this is the
case is because they make a profit from those who are successful so in
theory and in practice it doesn't make sense for them to kick anyone
off who is successful.

It may be true that ebay has changed the market both online and
offline. I hate the fact that yard sales are usually for junk nobody
wants. But I like the fact that other online vendors are more
competitve and sometimes have better prices that what you find on ebay.

As far as myspace being a country where the public has little to no
control over legislation.. I live there allready.

Yea the name Myspace is irritating and lame.. it's liek how windows
names your computer.. my computer.. like you weren't sure of who owned
it.. or is it irnonic since a large number of windows users in business
technically don't own the computer.

There will never be a sole social netowrk provider.. why?? because
there will allways be those who wish to reject the mainstream and will
form there own communities.

Adrian


--- Frank Barknecht <fbar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hallo,
> Kim Cascone hat gesagt: // Kim Cascone wrote:
> 
> > final: most of us have had enough of the one liner updates
> containing  
> > the myspace account info...yes, you're cool for having a myspace  
> > account - now let's talk about something more interesting?
> suggestions:
> > 
> > - what is the cultural/aesthetic intersection of 'places' like  
> > myspace with 'spaces' like microsound?
> > - and is the 'enabling' power of social networks real or is it
> simply  
> > another sort of commodity sold to us through viral advertising?
> 
> The problem I have with myspace specifically is that it is trying to
> (and apparently succeding in large amounts to) monopolize what is
> called "social networks". A similar thing happened in the past with
> ebay: Without selling anything themselves, they managed to get a firm
> grasp on grassroots markets, that is, the market, where everyone
> without a big budget could sell something. Today, if ebay throws you
> out, you're out of business.
> 
> A similar thing is happening to social networks currently. Now we
> still have several providers of these services, like friendster etc.
> and there is a *huge* interest or even fight for them involving the
> big players like Yahoo or Google.
> 
> But as with ebay, only the biggest one will survive and concentrate
> *a
> lot* of power in his hands, this time not power over sellers of
> second
> hand goods, but over the ways, artists try to get famous, amongst
> other things. Imagine two years from now, myspace being the sole
> "social network" provider left. If myspace throws you out, you're out
> not only of myspace, but you're out of the whole myspace community
> and
> nobody there will show interest in your music anymore, because they
> don't know it exists.
> 
> Myspace is like moving houses into a country where the public doesn't
> have any control over the legislation anymore. I know this is a a
> very
> bleak view into the future, and I hope it won't come this far, but
> myspace is not my space, it is not your space, it is "their" space
> alone.
> 
> The "real myspace" is somewhere else, somewhere, where "they" don't
> make the rules. Maybe it's in The Pirate Bay. 
> 
> Ciao
> -- 
>  Frank Barknecht                 _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
> 
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