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Re: [microsound] Re: livecoding



aleks vasic wrote:
sits behind the screen of his laptop multitasking between software, twiddles knobs on various controllers, effect peddles/decks, blah blah blah.

sounds remarkably like what a dj does, except take out the screen and replace with some decks. seriously, twiddling knobs on one piece of hardware vs twiddling knobs on another == little difference.

if you're someone like ritchie hawtin, for example, where djing is a
virtuoso exercise in making new music by never letting a record play for
more than 15 seconds without screwing with it in some way, there's a hell
of a lot of knob twiddling going on, and i bet you anything you like that
joe public has not a clue what he's doing.

A live electronic show(for lack of a better description)
alienates the audience much more then a traditional DJ does.

so does free jazz. i don't think the problem is that the medium alienates the public, the problem is that the marketing is terrible.

i believe two things about audiences - a) they want to hear something
interesting and b) they are *not* stupid (even joe public audiences). i was
having an argument with my friend who makes live video about this. he was
saying how he doesn't like meaning to be too obvious in his work, and i was
saying that since the medium is so new and the language is still in flux
the meaning needs to be crushingly obvious, and moreover the audience's
hands need to be held the whole time.

this is marketing - they need to be shown what's going on, made to feel
comfortable and secure and safe. perhaps the performances need to start
from first principles, in tiny bites. perhaps a gig night could be
structured starting with tiny little (10 minute) sets that introduce the
idea, and the epic 45 minute four-person mega feedback mess can happen
later on.. i did a show the other night where i was following on from three
guitary singer-songwriters. i livecoded pd for 10 minutes, starting with a
an empty patch and a single sine oscillator. i think they got it - well,
they cheered at the end anyway.

(like if i was to perform live booty
music that i composed and arranged where the audience could dance and involve themselves with),

so where's the live booty bass? on the openlab video that frank barknecht posted (hi frank) there was not one example of livecoded regular danceable dance music, and in all my researching i've never dug up any. don't tell me it can't be done - my live show used to be building up dance music tracks from completely empty ableton live sets (which is a form of livecoding but with a much, much higher level language), just using room noise and feedback.. no-one ever danced of course, because they ended up in the middle of 'experimental music' shows. haha.

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f r e y
live music with computers
http://www.frey.co.nz




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