it drastically oversimplifies the situation which makes it at best
misguided.
Neil Wiernik <neil@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
its not a wierd rant at all...
its basic look in your own trash can before complaining about others
trash...
On Wed, 27 Dec 2006, xe non wrote:
what a strange rant...
yes, every environmentalist struggles with the contradictions of
being "in the world" when it comes to effective activism and they
make thier peace with the compromises they know they will have to
make somewhere around thier sophmore year at college. yes, they will
probably have to use cars, yes they will have to live in buildings
made with wood, yes they will use electricity and do thier work with
wasteful and toxic technology...if they choose to stay engaged with
society in order to help change it yes. this is a realists approach.
will they minimize all this...most likely, as best thay can.
i suppose greenpeace could eschew all the tools of the modern world
and try to communicate the information they have and coordinate
thier campaigns from a computerless shack in the woods in order to
meet your peerless standards for acceptable activism, but we all
know how well that turned out for the unabomber and all concerned.
this campaign is an unusually refreshing for the effective way it
calls attention to the problem of toxic waste from computers in
general. targeting the company with the most eco-friendly public
image that it doesnt live up to, seems an effective way to
accomplish that goal. at least it is done with good-humour and stays
focused on the problem, or do you prefer the kaczynski method?
xe
Neil Wiernik wrote:
the larger question is does green peace use computers at all as if
they do
they to are part of the problem and not the solution if they want to
spin
things that way any how...
why dont they look at how computers as a whole work for them...
rather then against..
Im sure they use a fine number of IBM products and we all know who
IBM
helped in world war 2... i think rather then talkign like they are
holier
then now they need to look in thier own back yards.. I mean what
powers
thier boats GAS who makes the GAS...
I am a political person but when grassroot organisations dont take
the
time to look in their own back yard before pointing fingers it
pisses me
off!!!
On Wed, 27 Dec 2006, Steffan De Turck wrote:
unfortunately Greenpeace is more about demonizing
specific companies then making a POINT
e.g. Shell instead of Exxon Mobile, BP, Q8, Texaco,
Esso etc. etc. etc.
and now Apple?...
It seems a bit too trendy a campaign for me -- why
not talk about
all PC manufacturers, the full scope of the
problem, and work for
enacting national legislation following the
progressive European
lead in this area? Targeting a single company
seems gratuitous...
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