Re: [microsound] an interesting monolake answer

[Kyle Klipowicz <kyleklip@xxxxxxxxx>]

This is true.  When I started using Ableton's software (late 2004) I ended
up having to BUY Live 4 (after their well-executed marketing plan to break
the cracked version after a few months) and I read the entire manual over a
week.  I never understand why people refuse to read manuals, thinking that
they'll be more creative on their own.  To me, reading a manual for a tool
is just like Coltrane reading a scales book.  It makes me MORE creative, not
LESS.

But yeah, I generally create everything without quantizing, buy playing it
live into the computer through MIDI or recording.  Sometimes I use a drum
machine style beat, but other than that, it's pretty loose.

~Kyle


On 12/19/06, David Powers <cyborgk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Interesting ... for me, I couldn't really draw a line between editing
> and generating. It's part of the same process...
>
> But I LOATHE the piano roll, and I've also had problems just trying to
> plug in a keyboard and play a simple live keyboard part. It's more
> about assumptions Ableton makes about what I want to create, ie, that
> it's a loop, that it should be quantitized. Every time I DON'T want to
> make a loop, it turns out to be a real pain. I know there's
> workarounds, but this is almost the only software in my life where I
> had to read the manual!
>
> ~D
>
> On 12/19/06, Kyle Klipowicz <kyleklip@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On 12/18/06, David Powers <cyborgk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Maybe this explains why Ableton's interface seems visually so lacking
> > > to me. Okay, it's great for doing live DJing as it was originally
> > > intended, but every time I go to write some kind of piece with it and
> > > use it more like a traditional sequencer, the interface drives me
> > > absolutely insane. I just can't get a good workflow going in it...
> > >
> > >
> > That's funny, because I find that I am so addicted to Ableton Live
> because
> > it has the most elegant interface that I've ever used.  I feel like I'm
> on
> > Star Trek: The Next Generation when I use it.  All that's lacking is a
> > multi-touch screen (pleeeease Apple!)
> >
> > But I do agree that it's nice to listen to music w/out visual aid.  I
> read
> > an Autechre interview where they discuss similar things as well.  I
> think
> > that the visual aspect is great for editing, but not producing.  I
> hardly
> > even look at the screen when I'm generating content, rather when I'm
> editing
> > it.
> >
> > ~Kyle
> >
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