Re: [microsound] Getting started - crackalacka OT

[Xdugef <info@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Stop talking about my crack. ;-)

I'm not arguing that cracks are more stable than the original
software... they can only be as stable as the software was written to
be and only as stable as the system they are installed on. 

What I am trying to clarify is the misconception that "cracked" means
that the software has been altered and in the case of keygens that is
simply not the case. Keygens create a working key.. the software does
not know the difference. In many cases these keygens are written by
employees of the large corporations that own the software. These
keygens are fairly easy to obtain.

I also know this. I have worked at many places that were willing to
drop $10-20k to get legitimate software but needed it right away and
couldn't get the legit software they needed for weeks.. so guess what
filled the gap?

Can you say.. crack? and no.. after the legit software the crack was
not replaced with the legit license .. because there was really no
reason two since the job had been completed or well under way.

AD

--- aleks vasic <bvasic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Your missing my point.
> 
> Your cracks are not everyones cracks.  On average the real Mcoy is
> more 
> solid then the cracks are.  Its a black and white issue really.
> 
> Im glad that you had a good experience with your cracked apps, or
> have 
> not tried things with your cracked software yet that will crash it,
> but 
> i find it hard to believe that you would argue that cracked software
> is 
> more stable then the original.  Or that your CD wont be registered by
> 
> someone else, or who knows how many things can go wrong.  You, 
> personally have been able to enjoy those apps without frustration, 
> which is a beautiful thing.  Unfortunately not everyone is so lucky.
> 
> All i know is that i have spent less then 400 bucks for Reaktor 4 and
> 5 
> together in the last 3-4 years and it has been well worth it.  Just
> for 
> the access to the gold mine of great information that the forums give
> 
> you, makes the investment worth it.  If i dont understand something,
> or 
> need direction, or some edubumacation on a matter i need only ask and
> 
> guys with really big heads are they to help me understand.
> 
> No software is flawless, your right about that.  But from years and 
> years of using all sorts of software from graphics, to video, 
> animation, and beyond, i will take the legitimate version over the
> rest 
> any day.  I dont need the hassles.
> 
> 
> aLEKs
> 
> On May 14, 2007, at 7:20 PM, Xdugef wrote:
> 
> > There are three or four cracks I keep handy and they are all
> fine...
> > never any problem.. they are as stable or unstable as the software
> on
> > the install disc with a legit serial number... why?!??! cause the
> > software is not mangled and I'll only use keygens so....
> >
> > I know people can get superstitious about these things so I hear
> where
> > you are coming from. But I also know people that will keep running
> the
> > same old software that they bought legitmately until it will no
> longer
> > run or is buggy as hell cause it's so old to the point where they
> might
> > as well use crack... it'll be better than the old shit they got.
> >
> > or I know companies that have legit software but are paranoid about
> > installing updates and migrating to knew version for fear of
> > interupting their workflow.. I'm reluctant to "buy" into this
> concept
> > that legit software is flawless simply because you paid for it.
> >
> > Consider China, Microsoft is fuming because the entire freakin'
> country
> > uses pirated software yet their economy is booming... go figure.
> >
> > If I took a hundred pieces of software and installed them on two
> > different computers with the same installer, one with legit serial
> > numbers and one with generated numbers I'd expect them to work the
> > same.
> >
> > I mean do you really expect windows will work better because it's
> not
> > cracked? ;-)
> >
> > If an industry is life or death based on wether or not your
> software
> > works then personally I would get out of that business. ;-) The
> only
> > one that really comes to mind is being a soldier.
> >
> > The main thing about Reaktor and MAX etc is that they have much
> smaller
> > user bases and are smaller companies. Does that make it easier to
> > rationlize spending more money on them? It also means that there
> are
> > fewer brainiac crackers out there to come up with keygens for these
> > programs.
> >
> > AD
> >
> >
> > --- aleks vasic <bvasic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> On average cracked software is not as stable as the real Mcoy.
> >> Period.
> >>
> >> Take a hundred cracks and run them on 100 identical computers.
> >>
> >> Then take a hundred legitimate copies and run them on the same 100
> >> identical computers.
> >>
> >> Which phase of the experiment will have the most amount of
> crashes?
> >>
> >> Would you stake your life upon the results?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> aLEKs
> >>
> >> On May 14, 2007, at 6:01 PM, Xdugef wrote:
> >>
> >>> ...why not say the cracks you've used of Reacktor were
> unstable...
> >>> cause not all software works the same way.
> >>>
> >>> AD
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- aleks vasic <bvasic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Xdugef,
> >>>>
> >>>> Hmmm...
> >>>>
> >>>> I disagree.  Cracked software is almost never as stable as the
> >> real
> >>>> Mcoy.  I know there is always an exception to the rule, but i
> >> rather
> >>>> stick with the law of averages.  Ever try to load a cracked
> >> version
> >>>> of
> >>>> Reaktor into another software app as a VST instrument?  Wow talk
> >>>> about
> >>>> unstable.  The Legit version lets you do so on the fly, multiple
> >>>> instances even!  This kind of stuff requires the most recent
> >> version
> >>>> of
> >>>> all apps involved usually, a big road block if your studio is
> full
> >> of
> >>>>
> >>>> cracked apps.(thats why old school hardware rocks, GO NORD!)
> >>>>
> >>>> I also do not like to scour the net for serial#'s every time an
> >>>> update
> >>>> comes out, even if its a minor one.
> >>>>
> >>>> The time between Reator 4 and Reaktor 5 was about 3 years. 
> During
> >>>> that
> >>>> time many upgrades came out that were free and added an amazing
> >>>> amount
> >>>> of content to the program, not to mention the amazing work done
> by
> >>>> the
> >>>> community regulars themselves.
> >>>>
> >>>> It also allows you to install Reaktor to multiple machines.
> >>>>
> >>>> I like PD and Max and the endless amount of other software as
> >> well,
> >>>> unfortunately life keeps me from enjoying them all.  Bottom line
> >> is
> >>>> that do what you can afford to.  If you cant afford to buy
> >> software
> >>>> like this, then use the great open source options out there, or
> >> what
> >>>> ever other nebulous means to get your work to the next level.  I
> >>>> frown
> >>>> upon pirating software, a point of reference thing i
> guess(work),
> >> but
> >>>> i
> >>>> understand why people do so( i have as well in certain points of
> >> my
> >>>> life)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> aLEKs
> >>>>
> >>>> On May 14, 2007, at 5:30 PM, Xdugef wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- aleks vasic <bvasic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Legit software is also much more stable and you always get to
> >> use
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> most current version.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> mmm.. that may be true about some applications but most cracks
> >>>> these
> >>>>> days use serial number generators and you can many times get
> the
> >>>>> current version before the offical release date.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm not advocating using cracked software but just pointing out
> >> the
> >>>>> fallacy that "cracked software is inherently flawed".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also you only get to use the most current verion if you buy it
> or
> >>>> buy
> >>>>> the upgrades. It seems like the strategy of most large software
> >>>> vendors
> >>>>> these days is to release software that they know is flawed or
> >>>> missing
> >>>>> features so that they can charge you for upgrades later...on a
> >>>> schedule
> >>>>> once or twice a year. Plus you usually have little freedom to
> >> copy
> >>>> the
> >>>>> software to a second computer or you can but you have get
> >>>> permission to
> >>>>> do so. Some companies will charge you an arbitrary relocation
> >>>> fee... so
> >>>>> if you have the option to get a USB dongle then do so.. it will
> >>>> save
> >>>>> you a headache if you have machine problems and need to use a
> >>>> different
> >>>>> computer at 3 on a sunday morning.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But to get back on target.. PD is free right???.. if you can
> wrap
> >>>> your
> >>>>> mind around it then try it out, it won't cost you anything and
> is
> >>>>> completely legit. After trying it out if you want MAX then
> >> learning
> >>>> MAX
> >>>>> will be easy or easier.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
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