Re: [microsound] Re: stockhausen RIP: NYTimes article

[Johnny Dixon <johnnydixon@xxxxxxxxx>]

Ben

I share your disappointment at the 9/11 quote attributed to
Stockhausen being placed so central to his life and work. I think the
9/11 statement is not accurate - this correction:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/comment/story/0,,1525261,00.html

published in  2004 in the UK Guardian says:

'Face up to the truth' (Comment, last week) was wrong to say that the
composer Karlheinz Stockhausen was 'delighted' at the attack on the
World Trade Centre, describing it as 'a great work of art'. In fact,
Stockhausen made a statement to the effect that he believed the devil
was still an active force in the world and condemned the attack as
'Lucifer's greatest work of art'. Apologies.

(The same newspaper had published an earlier apology, in October 2001:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/corrections/story/0,3604,576020,00.html)

Somewhere I remember also reading in 2001 that the journalist who
broke the 'story' apologised for his misrepresentation - though I
can't trace a link for that.  Stockhausen seemed to keep a dignified
(or could that possibly be Cagean?) silence on the matter.

However, I think that pinning that lie onto Stockhausen's corpse, and
putting at the front of his life simply reinforces the perceived and
the real potency that noise/sound art/music/audio - what you will -
still has.

Entirely unrelated to that, who was the drummer who played with you at
the London Barbican Centre one sunny Saturday afternoon in (I
think?)1999?  Or are you not the mutantrumpet Ben Neill?  Great fun,
great set.

Johnny


On 11/12/2007, Ben Neill <ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> My problem with the NY Times obit was that it put his now infamous quote
> about 9/11 at the beginning of the article and the rest of it seemed to all
> be colored by that.  I can't believe someone who literally wrote the book on
> modern music (Paul Griffiths) would put so much emphasis on that quote when
> he knows that Stockhausen was truly one of the artistic giants of the 20th
> century.  It shows how warped the US has become, even the supposedly liberal
> NY Times. I wonder if he was told to do it that way or if he really believes
> Stockhausen was some kind of terrorist supporter.  Either way, it's pathetic
> to see that our politics is so warped that artistic brilliance is made less
> important because of one controversial statement.  A statement, btw, that
> has a lot of truth to it if one can get away from the massively ignorant,
> fundamentalist, literal way of thinking that dominates our culture.  I
> wonder if obits from other cities put so much emphasis on said quote.  I
> hope not.
>
> Ben Neill
>
> on 12/11/07 1:39 AM, microsound-digest-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxx at
> microsound-digest-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > microsound Digest 11 Dec 2007 06:39:20 -0000 Issue 1909
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> > Topics (messages 42639 through 42646):
> >
> > stockhausen RIP
> > 42639 by: mm03.nonpopradio.com
> > 42641 by: aleks vasic
> > 42643 by: joel justice
> > 42645 by: emanuele de raymondi
> > 42646 by: aleks vasic
> >
> > Re: stockhausen RIP: NYTimes article
> > 42640 by: Peter O'Doherty
> >
> > cog as an alternative to itunes?
> > 42642 by: philip sherburne
> >
> > Re: performers: WARPER invite / flyer --- 12/12/2007 Brooklyn, NY
> > 42644 by: Michael Kuszynski
> >
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> > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 02:56:22 -0500 (EST)
> > To: microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > From: mm03@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: stockhausen RIP
> > Message-ID: <57365.80.57.246.65.1197186982.squirrel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > I knew Stockhausen for over 20 years, and worked in the Stockhausen Verlag
> > for 3 years. He could be the nicest guy - put me up for a month while I
> > looked for and apartment - also the biggest jerk. He wrote a lot of great
> > music, and some not so great. I'm glad to have known him.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 20:42:19 -0500
> > To: microsound <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > From: aleks vasic <bvasic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: [microsound] stockhausen RIP
> > Message-Id: <F976D0CC-099C-4ECC-AC67-67B0407FC9DA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > You can attach whatever you want to some one else's comments but in
> > the end your assumption is what is truly irrelevant because it is just
> > that, an assumtpion.
> >
> > I honestly meant no disrespect, but if fanboys cannot separate their
> > emotions from hard cold facts  then a meaningful conversation is a
> > moot point.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Aleks
> >
> > On Dec 8, 2007, at 6:55 PM, "emanuele de raymondi"
> > <ederaymo2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, he was controversial and yes he had a big ego
> >> (but isn't it the history of western music, for the most part,
> >> a long list of ego-maniac personalities?). The "brilliant mind" factor
> >> I also find rather irrelevant. To those "brilliant mind" comments
> >> you could easily attach an unspoken: "horrible man, awful musician,
> >> but a brilliant mind indeed!".
> >> Ultimately, in my opinion, what counts is the music the man left
> >> behind,
> >> and his music is almost always powerful, deep, original and full of
> >> beauty.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Dec 8, 2007 11:22 AM, peter price <pprice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> a more meaningful obit than most:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/08/arts/music/08stockhausen-1.html
> >>>
> >>>
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> >
> > Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:44:12 -0500
> > To: microsound <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > From: "joel justice" <jj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: [microsound] stockhausen RIP
> > Message-Id: <E1J1T0W-0007HL-BH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > Good Lord.
> >
> > Sorry if I failed to understand your "inside joke" on the list.
> >
> > And the "devine" analogy was perfectly clear Aleks.  <sigh>  My point
> > was that it had nothing to do with the iPhone.
> >
> > Come down off of your pedestal my friend. People will take you or I or
> > anyone else on this list as seriously as they wish.  Quite frankly,
> > your use of profanity on the list has always bothered me, but I keep
> > my mouth shut because you are who you are.  Whatever.
> >
> > And - for the sake of argument about something that actually relates
> > to music... for me, *because* he was brilliant is precisely why I
> > couldn't care less about his "shortcomings."  Indeed, we all have
> > those don't we?
> >
> > You have a great weekend as well!  I for one am thankful to have some
> > rain *finally* out here in the dry desert :-)
> >
> > joel
> >
> >> It means that just because he was brilliant does not mean we should
> >> ignore some of his short comings.
> >>
> >> The simple fact that you don't understand the "devine" analogy
> >> explains a lot to me.
> >>
> >> The iphone sig is an inside joke between me and a fellow list member.
> >>
> >> When you act in this way do you really feel better about yourself?
> > Do
> >> you think that people will take you seriously in the future.
> >>
> >> Have a great weekend!  Chill out a tad and relax. Life is too short
> > to
> >> be sweatin crap like this.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Aleks
> >>
> >> On Dec 8, 2007, at 4:02 AM, Joel Justice <jj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> "devine entity?" what in the world are you talking about?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 8, 2007, at 1:49 AM, Visa Kuoppala
> > <visa.kuoppala@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Joel Justice kirjoitti:
> >>>>> I love the:
> >>>>> "absolutely NOT sent from iPhone"
> >>>>> Makes you sound like a jerk.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> What the fuck is wrong with the people on this list? Now that
> >>>> Stockhausen is dead, do we suddenly need to ignore all the
> >>>> controversial aspects of his persona and sement him as a divine
> >>>> entity or something?
> >>>>
> >>>> Or was this comment of yours just a random insult? It sure made
> > you
> >>>> sound like a jerk.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> - Visa
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> >>
> >
> > http://www.myspace.com/60100998
> > http://firefield.tumblr.com
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:48:23 -0500
> > To: microsound <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > From: "emanuele de raymondi" <ederaymo2@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: [microsound] stockhausen RIP
> > Message-ID: <b2d7e87d0712100448s16f5fa31u9972760befdc99be@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> > You certainly don't need to be a "fanboy" to realize Stockhausen's stature
> > in contemporary music culture. Like it or not he was a giant, and that is
> > the "hard cold fact".
> > I just wish that in the hour of the man's passing we would be talking about
> > his work and contribution, not about what he might have said once, or if he
> > was a nice
> > guy with a bad temper. That's just gossip as far as I'm concerned..
> >
> > ciao
> >
> > On Dec 8, 2007 8:42 PM, aleks vasic <bvasic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> You can attach whatever you want to some one else's comments but in
> >> the end your assumption is what is truly irrelevant because it is just
> >> that, an assumtpion.
> >>
> >> I honestly meant no disrespect, but if fanboys cannot separate their
> >> emotions from hard cold facts  then a meaningful conversation is a
> >> moot point.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Aleks
> >>
> >> On Dec 8, 2007, at 6:55 PM, "emanuele de raymondi"
> >> <ederaymo2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes, he was controversial and yes he had a big ego
> >>> (but isn't it the history of western music, for the most part,
> >>> a long list of ego-maniac personalities?). The "brilliant mind" factor
> >>> I also find rather irrelevant. To those "brilliant mind" comments
> >>> you could easily attach an unspoken: "horrible man, awful musician,
> >>> but a brilliant mind indeed!".
> >>> Ultimately, in my opinion, what counts is the music the man left
> >>> behind,
> >>> and his music is almost always powerful, deep, original and full of
> >>> beauty.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 8, 2007 11:22 AM, peter price <pprice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> a more meaningful obit than most:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/08/arts/music/08stockhausen-1.html
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:20:32 -0500
> > To: microsound <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > From: aleks vasic <bvasic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: [microsound] stockhausen RIP
> > Message-Id: <4ACACB37-AFC5-4362-844A-2CCD8F5228E5@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > I've used profanity once on this list, and that was because my
> > personal inbox was getting flooded with people who were angry with
> > what they felt was my lack of appreciation with how expensive eye wear
> > is.
> >
> > You go out of your way to be a jerk then justify it by irrelevant
> > motivators.
> >
> > " oh you once swore which absolutely excuses any idiotic behaviour
> > that I am going to display"
> >
> > you ignore the fact that your first comment in this thread was a slam
> > on me. Which had nothing to do with the subject being discussed.  you
> > make no sense what so ever.
> >
> > Are people allowed to express their opinions on this list without
> > inciting some sort of mob mentality response?
> >
> > Man
> >
> > Aleks
> >
> > Sent from an iPhone
> >
> > On Dec 9, 2007, at 3:44 PM, "joel justice" <jj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Good Lord.
> >>
> >> Sorry if I failed to understand your "inside joke" on the list.
> >>
> >> And the "devine" analogy was perfectly clear Aleks.  <sigh>  My point
> >> was that it had nothing to do with the iPhone.
> >>
> >> Come down off of your pedestal my friend. People will take you or I or
> >> anyone else on this list as seriously as they wish.  Quite frankly,
> >> your use of profanity on the list has always bothered me, but I keep
> >> my mouth shut because you are who you are.  Whatever.
> >>
> >> And - for the sake of argument about something that actually relates
> >> to music... for me, *because* he was brilliant is precisely why I
> >> couldn't care less about his "shortcomings."  Indeed, we all have
> >> those don't we?
> >>
> >> You have a great weekend as well!  I for one am thankful to have some
> >> rain *finally* out here in the dry desert :-)
> >>
> >> joel
> >>
> >>
> >>> It means that just because he was brilliant does not mean we should
> >>> ignore some of his short comings.
> >>>
> >>> The simple fact that you don't understand the "devine" analogy
> >>> explains a lot to me.
> >>>
> >>> The iphone sig is an inside joke between me and a fellow list member.
> >>>
> >>> When you act in this way do you really feel better about yourself?
> >> Do
> >>> you think that people will take you seriously in the future.
> >>>
> >>> Have a great weekend!  Chill out a tad and relax. Life is too short
> >> to
> >>> be sweatin crap like this.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> Aleks
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 8, 2007, at 4:02 AM, Joel Justice <jj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "devine entity?" what in the world are you talking about?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Dec 8, 2007, at 1:49 AM, Visa Kuoppala
> >> <visa.kuoppala@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Joel Justice kirjoitti:
> >>>>>> I love the:
> >>>>>> "absolutely NOT sent from iPhone"
> >>>>>> Makes you sound like a jerk.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What the fuck is wrong with the people on this list? Now that
> >>>>> Stockhausen is dead, do we suddenly need to ignore all the
> >>>>> controversial aspects of his persona and sement him as a divine
> >>>>> entity or something?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Or was this comment of yours just a random insult? It sure made
> >> you
> >>>>> sound like a jerk.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - Visa
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> ---
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> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: microsound-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >> http://firefield.tumblr.com
> >>
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 11:44:54 +0100
> > To: microsound <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > From: Peter O'Doherty <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: stockhausen RIP: NYTimes article
> > Message-Id: <6A64B3ED-7DCB-4823-A6C9-7B855D3F4C95@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> >
> > RIP
> >
> > Good obit in the NYTimes but, perhaps it's just me, why oh why do
> > they feel the need to translate all the tiles of the works mentioned:
> > "Song of the Youths", "Groups", "Contacts", etc. (and Messiaen's
> > "Mode of Values and Intensities")? It's the first time I noticed
> > this. Do they always do this? I know the British and Irish are pretty
> > poor in foreign languages but even the Guardian used the "correct"
> > titles.
> >
> > ----
> > Peter O'Doherty
> > http://www.peterodoherty.net
> > http://www.myspace.com/peterodoherty
> > ----
> >
> > On Dec 9, 2007, at 6:50 AM, microsound-digest-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> >> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 11:22:04 -0500
> >> To: microsound <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> From: peter price <pprice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: Re: [microsound] stockhausen RIP
> >> Message-Id: <F62C909C-83A3-45DE-8564-EC1BA96F19CA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>
> >> a more meaningful obit than most:
> >>
> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/08/arts/music/08stockhausen-1.html
> >
> > --Apple-Mail-2--153437403--
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 06:41:17 -0800 (PST)
> > To: microsound <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > From: philip sherburne <philipsherburne@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: cog as an alternative to itunes?
> > Message-ID: <65499.72700.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > hi microsounders,
> > i haven't posted on here in years, and i'm afraid my question won't be
> > terribly microsoundish; apologies in advance.
> >
> > to those who were talking about COG, that's potentially music to my ears. i've
> > had to move all my music to an external hard drive, as my laptop filled up
> > ages ago (professional hazard, i suppose), and itunes does a really terrible
> > job with finding music that's stored on externals. half the time it tells me
> > the song in question can't be found, even when i haven't moved anything or
> > changed any folder names. does anyone who's used COG know if it handles that
> > better than itunes? in itunes it seems to be a problem of itunes' complicated
> > folder structures, but i'm not 100% sure.
> >
> > offlist is fine.
> > thanks,
> > philip
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> > philip sherburne
> > www.philipsherburne.com
> > www.myspace.com/philipsherburneproductions
> >
> >
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> >
> > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 18:17:25 -0500
> > To: microsound <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > From: "Michael Kuszynski" <kuszynski@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Fwd: performers: WARPER invite / flyer --- 12/12/2007 Brooklyn, NY
> > Message-ID: <35d78f5c0712091517l609e7630n37e319ea0eb92e2e@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > Hello list friends,
> >
> > Below is an event that features live electronic music performances in
> > Williamsburg (Brooklyn, NY), this coming Wednesday, December 12, 2007.
> >  While largely revolving around Ableton Live, many will bring analog
> > gear and other twiddly-thingers (even drum kits, bass, and guitar!).
> >
> > I will be performing material from my album, Early Collected Works,
> > unreleased material for 2008, Detroit classics, and modern cuts and
> > edits.
> >
> > All present in the New York region should consider checking this out,
> > as there's a lot of different artists exploring a lot of different
> > paths in electronic music and utilizing some very diverse
> > technologies.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > --
> > ---
> > Michael Kuszynski
> > kuszynski@xxxxxxxxx
> > info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > http://www.planerecordings.com
> > New York, NY
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Subject: performers: WARPER invite / flyer
> >
> > hi fabulous artists, last warper was great, this next one looks like
> > its going to raise the roof, we have the most artists EVER, lots of
> > lead time for publicity, and a video crew from a very hip german TV
> > show coming to shoot.
> >
> > we've got a super event to pitch and i want to ask all of you to put
> > the word out, by far our best publicity is word of mouth to our
> > friends!  if each of us got just 3 - 5  people to come by, we could
> > double the turnout from last month, i want to play to a crowd, how
> > about you??
> >
> > attached is the flyer, below is the invite with embedded links, please
> > hit your email lists / post on bbs / chat groups / myspace / your web
> > page / forward to students / user groups etc.., email reminders the
> > day before or day of the party is very helpful too, THANKS!!
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --------------------
> >
> > Dj Shakey and Moldover present
> >  the monthly party:
> >
> > WARPER - 2yr. Anniversary Blowout!..
> >
> > Two Rooms of Omnidigital DJs, Biomorphic Musicians, and Multimedian Madness
> >
> > WEDS. 12/12
> >
> > Hey everybody, this is going to be a biggie, we have over 20 musical
> > acts, a record release party, clothing designers, art installations,
> > and visuals...all in one night in the HUGE Supreme Trading space in
> > Williamsburg Brooklyn. Dress your ubertekkafreakelastic best!
> >
> > Oh...and there will be a television crew documenting it all for the tv
> > show "Tracks" on the german ARTE network. You can see one of their
> > shows on dubstep HERE ..they are very cool.
> >
> > WEDNESDAY, Dec. 12th
> > Supreme Trading
> > 213 N. 8th st, (btw. Driggs and Roebling)
> > Williamsburg, Brooklyn 11211
> > (L train to Bedford stop, then two blocks)
> > 718-599-4224
> >
> > Featured Performance -
> > The Vacationist Presents:
> > Gregory Shiff "The Trapeze Artist & The Tightrope Walker" (Part 1 of 4)
> >
> > Live Music from 8pm sharp
> > 20+ electronic performers
> > Projected Images, Workshops, fashion, and Interactive Art too
> > FREE 21+
> >
> > Last Warper's photos HERE.
> > www.TheVacationist.net
> > www.warperparty.com
> >
> > Schedule:
> > FRONT ROOM
> >
> > 08:00 Patrick T-odd
> > 08:40 Max Xiantu
> > 09:10 DJ HeavyFlow
> > 09:50 Kristina SuperGenius
> > 10:20 OutHouse
> > 10:50 Pushtobreak
> > 11:20 Aerostatic
> > 11:50 DJ Shakey
> > 12:30 Michael Kuszynski
> > 01:00 Atom
> >
> > BACK ROOM
> >
> > 08:30 Plume
> > 09:00 Sam Pluta
> > 09:30 Elijah B Torn
> > 10:15 Moldover
> > 11:00 Featured Perfomer: Gregory Shiff - The Vacationist
> > 12:00 Thomas Hildebrand
> > 12:30 Lance Blisters
> > 01:00 BangInclude
> >
> > VISUALS (BACK ROOM)
> >
> > 09:00 Sam Pluta (Audio+Visual)
> > 09:30 Elijah B Torn (Audio+Light Show)
> > 10:15 Daniel Hai
> > 11:00 SuperDraw
> > 12:30 Lance Blisters (Audio+Visual)
> > 01:00 Sandrine
> >
> >  AND:
> >
> >  Installation: The Dream Machine by Sandrine
> > "Industrial Dress" by B & B Designs (Bechtol & Boyd)
>
>
>
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