Re: [microsound] anyone up for a .microsound project?

[Stephen Hastings-King <roachboy@xxxxxxxxx>]

i'd be interested in playing this game, i think.
i'm not sure when i'll be able to get to it, thugh, as my life is in flux.

i prefer crappier sounding files at any rate because they are less
"documentary" so less referential.
but i don't think any recordings are representational--they refigure by
fixing a duration, making it (and its contents) repeatable, rendering
everything that happens necessary (because repeatable in the same sequence
in the context of that fixed duration).
a consequence is that the weight one places on putative "representational"
value can be understood as working with a constraint, whether you realize it
or not.
it is not a matter of necessity: it doesn't follow "naturally" from the
material you work with.
i find it freeing to think in terms of constraints--it builds a degree of
latitude in that can be collapsed if you find yourself assuming some
naturalized documentary status obtains and that you have to maintain/work
around that status.

it may be that this documentary status business is of particular interest to
me as a function of my other life as a historian.
anyway, there we are.

stephen


On Jan 10, 2008 12:29 PM, Andras Hargitai <andras.hargitai@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> i own this one, it has been mentioned here on the list also:
> http://www.discogs.com/release/631223
>
>
> 2008/1/10, Graham Miller <grahammiller@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> > i have never heard of 'symphony of the planets'!
> >
> > what is it? sounds pretty interesting... where would one pick this up?
> >
> > g.
> >
> > On 10-Jan-08, at 1:15 PM, Andras Hargitai wrote:
> >
> > > the original versions doesn't sound like this... lo-fi mp3s always
> > > do their
> > > worst.
> > > i have downloaded the "symphonies of the planets" 5 disc set which
> > > is of
> > > course definitely edited material, but you know.. flac vs lo-fi mp3...
> > > dynamics are always sensible i believe.
> > > so we may ask the scientists then for better encoded versions. :)
> > >
> > > 2008/1/10, Graham Miller <grahammiller@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > >>
> > >> i like this response.
> > >>
> > >> but still, one wonders if this is what the original sound file sounds
> > >> like, or has it been mp3 compressed to death by scientists that
> > >> aren't audiophiles?
> > >>
> > >> if the original sound files are this quality, so be it. but i always
> > >> like to work with the best possible sounding source material before i
> > >> start to screw around w/ it.
> > >>
> > >> g.
> > >>
> > >> On 10-Jan-08, at 12:03 PM, Owen Green wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Can't it be both?
> > >>>
> > >>> As representations of 'pure' phenomena - and not ones we could ever
> > >>> directly hear, it's worth noting - the files' limited bandwidth and
> > >>> dynamic range can be understood as inhibiting.
> > >>>
> > >>> As representations of an (imperfect) reconstruction of some
> > >>> phenomena, we hear the results of, e.g., technical ambiguity (in
> > >>> the construction of a sound from sensor data) and of choices (made
> > >>> about *how* to sonify,
> > >>> how much to clean up, the resolution at which to publish online
> > >>> etc.).
> > >>>
> > >>> For me, it's the messy ambiguity that I find 'meaningful character'
> > >>> in...
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Owen
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Visa Kuoppala wrote:
> > >>>> My thoughts also... And I don't think this adds any meaningful
> > >>>> "character" to the sounds, but reduces their subtle otherworldly
> > >>>> qualities...
> > >>>> I'm in anyway, but higher quality soundfiles would make it more
> > >>>> interesting...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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