Re: [microsound] Max/Msp 5 is here

[Paulo Mouat <paulo.mouat@xxxxxxxxx>]

In the academia sense and heritage he probably is. There is a
disconnect in the notion of microsound as expounded by Roads (and by
extension, accepted in academic circles) and that typically discussed
on this list.

//p
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On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 2:09 PM, craquemat <craque@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> ha ha ha ha this made me laugh!
>
> i don't know if i agree 100% with his statements. and i don't know his music
> at all.
>
> i did find it curious that the article refers to him as "THE FOREMOST
> COMPOSER" of microsound.
>
> his discogs page sure doesn't belie that.
>
> -m
>
>
>
> Graham Miller wrote:
> > right...
> >
> > and roads' stuff is all depth and narrative?
> >
> > please.
> >
> > raver graham
> >
> > On 24-Apr-08, at 12:36 PM, craquemat wrote:
> >
> >
> > > I for one don't especially like this increasingly automated approach to
> making music. Ableton Live used to be a very neat tool for doing certain
> specific things, but it has swollen into this beast that practically makes
> the music on its own.
> > >
> > > And personally I am growing weary of so much computer-aided music
> sounding the same. I don't know how much of this can be blamed on the
> software or not.
> > >
> > > I suppose the real works of art will end up outshining the others as
> time passes. In some ways it's probably no good to blame the tools, but the
> humans who use them.
> > >
> > > There is a really neat blurb in this month's Wired (Steve Carrell on the
> front) about Curtis Roads and microsound. He makes an applicable comment on
> how "ravers" (which I take to mean not just literally people who go to
> raves, but the generation of music makers inspired by that tradition when
> making music) definitely make some beautiful sounds, but there is not much
> depth or narrative in what they're doing.
> > >
> > > In other words, the art isn't as rich, even if the paint job is stellar.
> > >
> > > Graham Miller wrote:
> > >
> > > > in that lengthy robert henke video i posted a little while ago he says
> nothing will happen until max 5 is out and then he eluded to the pluggo
> product line, implying that there might some kind of function that allows
> users to build there own plug-ins within live... but he was pretty
> tight-lipped about the whole venture. someone asked him about jitter and
> video in live and he just smiled and didn't respond, saying 'he already said
> too much.' to be honest, they themselves probably don't even know for sure
> what's going to happen...
> > > > On 23-Apr-08, at 7:26 PM, Matt Tierney wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > DIY Live instruments/effects?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Hans Erik Nilsson
> <hasse@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > can't wait to find out what they're gonna do w/ ableton now that
> max
> > > > > > > is done...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah, absolutely. Anyone on the list picked up on any rumours on
> what
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > be the outcome of the partnership between Cycling 74 and Ableton?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /Cheers,
> > > > > > /Hasse
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mr. Hans Erik Nilsson | Voice: +46 73 6636331 |
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> > > > > > "There are many futures and only one status quo"  - Brian Eno
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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