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Re: [microsound] Max/Msp 5 is here



Please, expound.

Paulo Mouat wrote:
In the academia sense and heritage he probably is. There is a
disconnect in the notion of microsound as expounded by Roads (and by
extension, accepted in academic circles) and that typically discussed
on this list.

//p
http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0/

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 2:09 PM, craquemat <craque@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
ha ha ha ha this made me laugh!

i don't know if i agree 100% with his statements. and i don't know his music
at all.

i did find it curious that the article refers to him as "THE FOREMOST
COMPOSER" of microsound.

his discogs page sure doesn't belie that.

-m



Graham Miller wrote:
right...

and roads' stuff is all depth and narrative?

please.

raver graham

On 24-Apr-08, at 12:36 PM, craquemat wrote:


I for one don't especially like this increasingly automated approach to
making music. Ableton Live used to be a very neat tool for doing certain
specific things, but it has swollen into this beast that practically makes
the music on its own.
And personally I am growing weary of so much computer-aided music
sounding the same. I don't know how much of this can be blamed on the
software or not.
I suppose the real works of art will end up outshining the others as
time passes. In some ways it's probably no good to blame the tools, but the
humans who use them.
There is a really neat blurb in this month's Wired (Steve Carrell on the
front) about Curtis Roads and microsound. He makes an applicable comment on
how "ravers" (which I take to mean not just literally people who go to
raves, but the generation of music makers inspired by that tradition when
making music) definitely make some beautiful sounds, but there is not much
depth or narrative in what they're doing.
In other words, the art isn't as rich, even if the paint job is stellar.

Graham Miller wrote:

in that lengthy robert henke video i posted a little while ago he says
nothing will happen until max 5 is out and then he eluded to the pluggo
product line, implying that there might some kind of function that allows
users to build there own plug-ins within live... but he was pretty
tight-lipped about the whole venture. someone asked him about jitter and
video in live and he just smiled and didn't respond, saying 'he already said
too much.' to be honest, they themselves probably don't even know for sure
what's going to happen...
On 23-Apr-08, at 7:26 PM, Matt Tierney wrote:

DIY Live instruments/effects?

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Hans Erik Nilsson
<hasse@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


can't wait to find out what they're gonna do w/ ableton now that
max
is done...


Yeah, absolutely. Anyone on the list picked up on any rumours on
what
could
be the outcome of the partnership between Cycling 74 and Ableton?

/Cheers,
/Hasse

Mr. Hans Erik Nilsson | Voice: +46 73 6636331 |
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