Re: [microsound] microsound/music future

[Greg <gregg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> i think what has been said is interesting. of course nothing that is a
> product of art is eternal, whether that be paintings, language, or music.
of
> course that might be for some, difficult to believe, especially with the
> increasing number of computer musicians in the US and Europe. the societal
> trend is to have no real strong opinion of music so therefore maybe none
> will be created. this is shown in our government, too. it is parallel
cross
> culturally in the broad sense, that people have no real strong opinions.
> whereas this wasn't the case 100, 50, or 30 years ago. people like what is
> repetitious -- the same of two beats ten times over. the same brand of
> thinking can apply to popular music like britney spears; she might not be
> liked but she and other /artists/ of all genres are producing what is
quick
> and easy and likely to numb an ear. is this the fault of the artist? or
the
> fault of the public. it's the fault of the public.

As i mentioned, i really like britney spears, but its a completely different
kettle of fish. she's not really a musician at all, she's a dancer and an
entertainer and a singer (as opposed to a songwriter), i don't think we can
compare chalk to cheese.

its nobody's fault, its late capitalism for yr. but i do agree, 90% of the
population really dont give a shit about music, its wallpaper and a
lifestyle background.

> . . . people have the growing means and encouragement of popularity to use
> tools to produce (that being the computer) but the trouble in the near
> future might be that people are using the tool because they are passionate
> about the computer itself not the music behind it. who designs string
> quartets anymore? it is not even necessary to understand or know math to
> produce music. this is why there aren't and maybe will not be unique
> compositions such as those from stravinsky and bach in the now or in the
> future... it is rare to hear music original and inspired by the composer's
> mind, rather than the output of a tool mastered or self taught.  this is
not
> at all to say technology or the micro sound evolution is 'bad', but since
> the subject of history has been referenced a few times in this post i will
> also add -- the greeks were masters of art and music and theatre -- read
> about them and it can be seen why it was all lost (or not continued,
rather)
> . . .                                 ashley.

people who are only passionate about computers are programmers and
tecnicians, not musicians. but programmers can be musicians, yr see?

also note, there is no output without input. forget the tools, nobody learns
the same way. i'm sure everybody who uses MAX or audiomulch or supercollider
or whatever applies different techniques, so this cant be an issue either.

there is no such thing as computer music. its human music, its beautiful and
it beeps. we aren't putting any less humanity into what we do than
britney... its just our language is different. britney looks better in hot
pants than any microsounders (any challengers?)

lve!