Re: [microsound] noise to signal (subjective...)

[wsoderberg@xxxxxxxxxxx]

this leaves such a bad taste in my brain...
at least one of the people on your list still post his adverts on a regular
basis, without any commentary...
i enjoy the links to music, enjoy opinions which refer to interesting
relevant musics & arts & software...
do not enjoy the playlists,
and most of all do not enjoy the extended back-and-forth philosphical
posts... those  quickly lose any interesting material within the first 3
posts or so... then turn into endless quasi-political quagmires... i prefer
an open forum...
most of all, i get the impression that perhaps some would prefer to eject
the "non-professional" participants so you can have elite-only dialogs...
but then i am suspicious of anyone who seeks to define what is "intelligent"
and believes "iq" is meaningful in quantifying something which is
not-measurable, imhofwiw...
the coldness and exclusionary attitude is often reflected in the sounds
made... i find...

~will soderberg
experimental artist with a day job



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "derek holzer" <derek@xxxxxxx>
To: "microsound" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [microsound] noise to signal (subjective...)


> Dear micronauts,
>
> Michael Andrew Doherty wrote:
> > I heartily agree with the need to converse about our art and music in a
> > community (like the Europeans).
>
> As do I, being an adopted European ;-)
>
> But I will fess up that I was one of the people to wrote to Kim off-list
>   about an announce-only version of microsound. And the reason being the
> opposite of what you might think! The discussion that has come up around
> this particular topic might be some of the better discussion I've seen
> in months around here. I asked for an announce version of the list
> because I've gotten disappointed in the level of discussion that mostly
> happens lately.
>
> I guess I'll just come out and say it: this is NOT the IDM list. Early
> on, this list was a real haven for intellectual discussion about issues
> surrounding what Kim calls "post-digital" music. But I think we've
> already seen some of our brightest minds disappear because of the
> general drop in IQ of the average post. Go back and look at the early
> archives and count the number of amazing folks (many of whom were quite
> happy to contribute in list project) who almost never participate
> anymore: Akira Rabelais(R. Ecalcitrance), Taylor Deupree, Stephan
> Mathieu, Ross Healy(Cray), Greg Taylor(C74), Philip Sherburne, TV Pow,
> Steve Roden, Richard Chartier...
>
> For me at least, microsound is not a fanboy music list, and it's not a
> blog where you can just copy/paste whatever off-topic junk you absorbed
> from other mass-internet-media whenever you get an itch in your ass. And
> cheesy one-liners or negative slapdowns by kids with lots of opinions
> formed in their bedrooms and little experience to back it up don't
> contribute to any kind of real discussion either.
>
> But, by and large, this is what I've found on this list increasingly. So
> I've stopped paying much attention to the banter and concentrated on
> announcements of what my peers are up to, no matter where they happen to
> reside or perform. So if there were a version of microsound which
> focused on the interesting releases and events and left the blogboy
> babble out of the picture, I'd glady move over for a while till the
> fluff settles.
>
> best wishes,
> derek
>
>
> -- 
> derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl
> ---Oblique Strategy # 36:
> "Consult other sources
> -promising
> -unpromising"
>
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