Re: [microsound] being 'political' in non-verbal music

[aleks vasic <bvasic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Well now that you have basically repeated what i sai


On Jun 27, 2005, at 10:34 PM, Exegene wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, aleks vasic wrote:
>
> > On Jun 27, 2005, at 5:17 PM, Exegene wrote:
> *snip*
> > > stoplights convey specific agreed on information, because stoplights 
> > > can't be used to convey musings on conveying musings with stoplights 
> > > the use of stoplights can't be taken as language.
> >
> > You cant use a stop light the same way you can use and old school 
> > Morse code/ telegraph?  Whats the difference between assigning 
> > meaning to letters/and words and doing the same to a stop light?  You 
> > know i can use a stop light to reproduce all which has been said in 
> > this thread today by assigning meaning to flashes, colours and what 
> > not.
> *snip*
>
> Taking the excuse to engage in some slightly slimy post hoc wordplay, 
> and acknowledging only a particular case of stoplight to facilitate 
> brevity, the stoplight as it is is a device that will emit one of 
> three impulses, one signifying "stop", another "go", the last "prepare 
> to stop." Go is invariably followed by prepare to stop, followed by 
> stop, followed by go. The only room for variability in impulses 
> emitted is found in the time between the onset of each. The impulses 
> are meaningful only to a person operating a vehicle within sight of 
> and in line to pass under the stoplight.

Brilliant...
> Employing a stoplight as a morse code transmitter requires that it 
> does not function as a stoplight because stoplight as it is cannot be 
> seperated from stoplight as traffic control. A spoon and bowl can just 
> as well be used to tap out morse code, although in that case they 
> would still be able to function as a eating implements, but that bears 
> in no way on whether or not "soup slurping" is a language.
Who cares if it does not function as a stop light.  It can still be 
used as a tool to communicate in the same exact way you and i are right 
now.

Score one for the neanderthal in the opening scene of 2001space Oddesey 
 when he realized a bone can be used to crush some sods head with.

aLEKs


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