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Re: [microsound] an interesting monolake answer





from my understanding in my past conversations with robert djing in abelton was not what it was developed for it was just an accidental use of the tool orginally developed as a live sequencing. and yes it was orginally and I belive still is all built or prototyped in max/msp and then broght over to c++
abelton has come a long was since the early days but one thing is for sure it was not made in mind as a djing tool...



On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Simon Hampson wrote:

I didn't think Ableton was created for djing. I always understood that
Robert & co drafted it as a live performance tool in MAX/MSP and then ported
it to C++ for a commercial release.

The Djing thing was accidental..

Simon.


On 19/12/06 6:20 PM, "David Powers" <cyborgk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Interesting ... for me, I couldn't really draw a line between editing
and generating. It's part of the same process...

But I LOATHE the piano roll, and I've also had problems just trying to
plug in a keyboard and play a simple live keyboard part. It's more
about assumptions Ableton makes about what I want to create, ie, that
it's a loop, that it should be quantitized. Every time I DON'T want to
make a loop, it turns out to be a real pain. I know there's
workarounds, but this is almost the only software in my life where I
had to read the manual!

~D

On 12/19/06, Kyle Klipowicz <kyleklip@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 12/18/06, David Powers <cyborgk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Maybe this explains why Ableton's interface seems visually so lacking
to me. Okay, it's great for doing live DJing as it was originally
intended, but every time I go to write some kind of piece with it and
use it more like a traditional sequencer, the interface drives me
absolutely insane. I just can't get a good workflow going in it...


That's funny, because I find that I am so addicted to Ableton Live because
it has the most elegant interface that I've ever used.  I feel like I'm on
Star Trek: The Next Generation when I use it.  All that's lacking is a
multi-touch screen (pleeeease Apple!)

But I do agree that it's nice to listen to music w/out visual aid.  I read
an Autechre interview where they discuss similar things as well.  I think
that the visual aspect is great for editing, but not producing.  I hardly
even look at the screen when I'm generating content, rather when I'm editing
it.

~Kyle

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