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Re: [microsound] renoise

I guess technically i dont. I just use the instruments and effects via VST in other programs. Mostly because some of Buzz's instruments/ effects are on par with anything out there(IMO) Buzz is an old modular program and for its time was pretty darn impressive, I just was never able to think creatively with the tracker that EVERYTHING in buzz is tied to. So i brought the instruments i liked into to the programs that i was more comfortable with. I still have a folder of old favorite effects and instruments that i dip into with regularity.
I once did a test in fruity loops where i loaded reaktor into fruity loops and then loaded buzz in as well. Used fruity loops to trigger the instruments and was amazed at how stable it was regardless of how many ensembles or buzz instruments i used. Only problem was i am too lazy to shoot out the samples organize them then bring them into other programs to continue the project. not efficient enough for me since my play time is very limited. Any one try something similar with other programs? Some thing more organized like reaktor or abelton? The concept of merging several audio programs to work together fascinates(even excites) me. 

So there you have it!

aLEKs



On Nov 16, 2007, at 1:43 PM, Graham Miller wrote:


then why use buzz at all?

what's the advantage? why do you like it?

On 16-Nov-07, at 1:39 PM, aleks vasic wrote:
Its great for people who can think musically, i.e. they compose songs on paper without instruments. I saw o9(who is out of the music game now i believe) compose via Buzz on the fly. He would compose 4-5 bars at a time and then assign different instruments and effects searching for different sounds. It was fast, brutal, and impressive. Something i will never be able to do, but then again my parents weren't an opera singer and composer like his were. He was classically trained in music theory from childhood. For some one like this a tracker is a great tool to explore ideas quickly.
I use Buzz, but only the instruments and effects which i load into other programs as vst plug ins. I need a visual type tracker to aid me. I have a hard time in the old school trackers. Like you said, for me its not intuitive, and not creative. At least thats how i justify it! 

aLEKs




On Nov 16, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Graham Miller wrote:
curious what kind of creative advantage/perspective this kind of sequencer might give over more modern sequencers, like ableton live or logic?
is their any reason to go down this route aside from an interest in its historical/gaming context? i know people like autechre and whatnot claim to use them... i think maybe venetian snares too... but i just don't see the advantage... it seems so archaic and unintuitive to me... 

thoughts?


g.


On 16-Nov-07, at 11:58 AM, Kim Cascone wrote:
sorry if this has been brought up before but I remembered someone in a workshop being very pleased with this: 
http://www.renoise.com/

anyone have any experience using this tracker?
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