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Re: [microsound] Last.fm sound quality?
- To: microsound <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [microsound] Last.fm sound quality?
- From: reSet Sakrecoer <sakrecoer@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:18:24 +0100
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Good thing is to be happy about your choices!
Lately i've gone over to faritilizer.com
You should try it out, if not just to use yet another promotion tool!
On Jan 30, 2008 2:03 PM, Sietse Van Erve <sietse.van.erve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I do both. I have my music up on last.fm and on my own website with a
> flash player.
> It's just a promotion tool.
> And I don't see a purpose in "making" it difficult for the listener.
> If I can bring my music to the listener I will do that. If I wouldn't
> do that I would still just sit at home and maybe make some songs and
> keep them all for myself. Internet for me has been the reason the
> start releasing music. It was an eye opener for me, seeing there
> actually is an audience for the music I do.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Sietse
>
> On Jan 30, 2008 1:36 PM, reSet Sakrecoer <sakrecoer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > unless you don't have access to your own server, don't put files for
> > download there.... whatfor? i mean common... are your listener realy
> going
> > to have eveerything served prechopped on a silverplate? "What about some
> > resarche work dear audience?"
> >
> > And remember you could never express yourself as well on a provided
> service
> > as with your own tools! :)
> >
> > carpe diem,
> > reSet
> >
> >
> > On Jan 30, 2008 1:31 PM, Sietse Van Erve <sietse.van.erve@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > > yeah good point, but the downloads is still an question for me.
> > >
> > > On Jan 30, 2008 12:48 PM, reSet Sakrecoer <sakrecoer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > they reencode for the radio....
> > > > you wouldn't believe they were streaming those 320kbps raw files you
> > > > uploaded right?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jan 30, 2008 11:27 AM, Sietse Van Erve <sietse.van.erve@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hmm, i checked it now and it seems that indeed the files are in
> > > > > 128kbps. Probably I did encode them again.
> > > > > Just can't remember.
> > > > > But if you check the following tracks:
> > > > > http://www.last.fm/music/Orphax/_/On+Subducting+an+Island
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://www.last.fm/music/Orphax/_/as+the+stone+falls+it+won%27t+come+up+again
> > > > >
> > > > > You hear that their is no problem with the sound. The mp3 and the
> file
> > > > > in the stream are the same.
> > > > >
> > > > > Greetings,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sietse
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jan 30, 2008 11:10 AM, Sergio Luque <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Sietse,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for your reply!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Jan 29, 2008, at 1:44 PM, Sietse Van Erve wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you upload 192kbps or vbr alt-preset-standard mp3's it
> > > shouldn't
> > > > > > > give a problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That would be really nice. Although I just tried it: I uploaded
> a
> > > 192
> > > > > > Kbps VPB MP3...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > They do not recompress the files at all. You upload the files
> and
> > > a
> > > > > > > few seconds later they are online.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - the last.fm GUI told me that it had to "import" my file and
> that
> > > it
> > > > > > was going to take two minutes
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > So if you make the mp3's yourself you have got full-control of
> the
> > > > > > > whole deal. Just check what you upload before.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - the soundfile that appeared later ended up sounding really
> similar
> > > > > > (full of artifacts) to the previous one that I had already
> uploaded
> > > > > > as a WAV and that they compressed
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please let me know if you have any other suggestions on how to
> > > > > > improve the quality of the uploads. FWIW, I haven't been able to
> > > find
> > > > > > _official_ information on the bit rate that they are using, but
> > > I've
> > > > > > found this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wired | All Major Labels to Stream Free Music on Last.fm(January
> > > 23,
> > > > > > 2008)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Stiksel then conducted an overview of the Last.fm site, which
> looks
> > > > > > much like it did before Wednesday's announcement, but with far
> more
> > > > > > licensed music from high-profile artists. He said that not only
> does
> > > > > > the site provide single-song, on-demand streaming (128 Kbps
> stereo
> > > > > > MP3), but also complete album streams three times on a "try
> before
> > > > > > you buy" basis."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://blog.wired.com/music/2008/01/liveblog-the-cb.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Last.fm | Wikipedia (January 30, 2008)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "The radio stream uses an MP3 stream encoded at 128 kbit/s 44.1kHz"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last.fm
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > last.fm | Forums > Feedback and Ideas > Compressed Music
> (January
> > > > > > 26-27, 2008)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "And, for the record, there have been people complaining about
> 128
> > > > > > kbps being too much for their connections to handle, so yeah...
> "
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.last.fm/forum/21717/_/372504
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I guess it sort of makes sense.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Groeten!,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Sergio
> > > > > > http://www.sergioluque.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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