Re: [microsound] soundtrack for apocalyptic annihilation

[Tim Mortimer <timmortimer@xxxxxxxxx>]

I only skim this list these days, & i missed how this thread started, but it
looks interesting.

who wrote originally about this eros/thanathos stuff? was it Baudrillard or
somebody? (i'm not an academic...)

benjamin & blanchot now sound interesting too... any chance of a selected
bibliography on some of this?


jeff gburek wrote:
> 
> or
> --- Kim Cascone <kim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Feb 11, 2008, at 1:00 PM, somebody wrote:
>> 
>> > isn't it
>> > that we find destruction beautiful because it IS
>> destruction and what
>> > we long for above all is apocalyptic annihilation?
>> 
>> 
>> I think this might also be the desire to dissolve
>> the ego in an 'other'
>> i.e.: eros/thanatos
>> to enter a state of eternal non-being by being
>> absorbed into  
>> something greater
>> and sometimes this occurs as a destructive or
>> violent process
>> example: the armageddon/apocalyptic annihilation
>> desired by the neo- 
>> con/christian right in the US
> 
> or the desires of its so-called enemy (necessary
> rival) on the fanatical verso/recto
> 
> one thing differs with eros: the erotic can give rise
> to care and preservation
> 
> this we can figure out once we know that the orgasm is
> not the end of the world
> 
> but another desire lays hidden in the apocalyptic, not
> not only by what benjamin described as the messianic
> impulse that in the early benjamin at least he tries
> to link to revolutionary upheaval: once the apocaplyse
> is "finished" (it never it unfortunately)
> 
> you can start with "tabula rasa"
> 
> but this is also illusory
> 
> blanchot wanted to say "the disaster takes care of
> everything" but it doesnt really. the disaster
> eliminates certain obstacles, inhibitions, opressions
> and repressions, temporarily.
> 
> living in berlin one sees reminders of what kind of
> destruction took place at the end of wwII and it is
> hard to imagine that destruction itself--the kind
> brought about by war--is beautiful. but in ruins i
> find beauty. why? maybe because in them we see that
> the disaster is behind us? because what is displaced
> by the destruction reveals a space of another
> possibility? or like with the "unfinished" sculpture
> or painting, it inspires the imagination by its
> incompleteness?
> 
> the last thought: 
> because structural elements are laid bare and this
> gives us our own ability to see how to build?
> 
> 
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> j.ff gbk
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