Re: [microsound] Mac vs PC (linux information)[pd readymades]

[Tjeerd Sietsma <tsietsma@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:05:06 -0400, "Michal Seta" <mis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
said:
> "Tjeerd Sietsma" <tsietsma@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> 
> > You're right, that's a main argument to choose for PD. But next to that,
> > PD should also provide it's user with top-level building blocks. 
> 
> The links I sent in my previous mail in this thread are such building
> blocks and they even have a GUI.  If there aren't enough it's only
> because 1) there aren't many users who actually develop for the good
> of the community, 2) not enough people asked for such things.  Keep in
> mind that many users share their work (not enough perhaps) so you can
> always dig in and adapt to your own needs.
> 
> > This
> > would help a lot of developers gain programming speed and reduce
> > efforts.
> 
> Developers or users?  

users :) I'm used to look at PureData users as developers, because they
are also programming.
Although those users normally don't code stuff, they do create
algorithms. (2nd part of programming)

> 
> > I guess this is exactly what Miller Puckette doesn't want.
> 
> I don't think so.  In fact Miller has started an effort of porting
> some pieces from the IRCAM interactive computer music literature
> (Boulez, Saariaho, Manoury) and examples of using pd for such things
> like collage a la Tenney, spectral resynthesis a la Harvey, phase a la
> Reich but IRCAM pulled the plug due to licensing.  Some of the
> components (if not most) were ready to reuse.  Blame IRCAM for not
> allowing access to such great resource.  OTOH, I doubt David Z., the
> cycler74, spends time making user-friendly high-level modules.  Other
> people do that.  But then, I don't know jack...  i might be wrong.
> 
> The upside is that there is more interest for high-level blocks and
> some users started providing some goodies.  Stay tuned.

So it's up to the users (who are also developers :) to create PD exten-
tions. That doesn't sound too bad. I'm already glad Miller Puckette made
the PureData 'framework' to create extentions for.
-- 
  Tjeerd Sietsma
  tsietsma@xxxxxxxxxxx


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