Re: [microsound] Call for Work: Queer Experimental Sound

[jcespinosa@xxxxxxx]

I just love when needs are necessary. They're no fun otherwise. And
it's even more difficult to get them funded through grants.

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From: jcespinosa@xxxxxxx
To: microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [microsound] Call for Work: Queer Experimental Sound

People. 
Really. 
 
Did PH scream "fag!" ["phag?"] in response to the call for works? 
I didn't read the word, but after years of experience as the target of
homophobia, it was loud and clear. 
 
For me it isn't enough to move on and leave the conversation behind.
I'm preparing a piece that uses the text of his silly homophobic email
as its spine. If only I had his voice to twist and tangle into the
piece! Maybe I'll send it in to Bending Sound. I'll share it if I
finish it this weekend. 
 
His smarmy email has nothing to do with any debate about identity
(politics), or marxism, or post-post-anything else. I love that stuff.
It's about petulance. 
 
Todd got it right. PH's coprophagous attitude makes the need for
Bending Sound all the more necessary. 
 
JC 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: mcnafong@xxxxxxxx 
To: microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Mon, 7 May 2007 12:49 PM 
Subject: Re: [microsound] Call for Work: Queer Experimental Sound 
 
Agreed that identity politics is a bit riddled with problems. But
still, it seems the reaction waas more vituperative than intellectual.  
  
At any rate, it's probably best to just move on, no?  
  
On May 7, 2007, at 12:17 PM, David Powers wrote:  
  
> I'm not sure ph's original comment was "ridicule", but I can see how  
> there could be a disturbing aspect to questioning this call for
works.  
>   
> On the other hand, identity politics tend to leave a bad taste in my  
> mouth. The move to identity politics coincided nicely with a broad  
> depoliticizing, especially on the economic front, and with the  
> ascension of eighties pomo relativism. Is identity politics, and  
> artwork rooted in identity politics, really still relevant?  
>   
> I'd feel a little different if I saw some attempt to make rhizomatic  
> connections going on. Some mention of class, economy, and attempts
to  
> make connections beyond this narrow field of identity politics...  
>   
> ~David  
>   
> On 5/7/07, Todd Shalom <retodd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:  
> > to chide ethan for posting to both the 'announce' and 'general'
lists >> is one  
> > thing (seemingly a newbie error on his part) and could have been
done  
> > off-list.  
> > but to ridicule the call for entry is just upsetting.  
> > would you react the same way to a posting for artists of color?
your  
> > negation of this call simply reinforces its importance.  
> >   
> > todd  
>   
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