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Re: [microsound] Call for Work: Queer Experimental Sound



JC,

By no means was I suggesting that it was a trifle -  I'm one of the
first people who called him on the carpet for his homophobia. I guess I
was just saying that it's not terribly productive to vet these matters
on email. It only gets more attention than it deserves and results in
amplifying the situation. Ooops, I guess I just did that, didn't I?

At any rate, I look forward to hearing what you produce in response.

sincerely,


mac


On May 8, 2007, at 12:53 PM, jcespinosa@xxxxxxx wrote:

I just love when needs are necessary. They're no fun otherwise. And
it's even more difficult to get them funded through grants.

-----Original Message-----
From: jcespinosa@xxxxxxx
To: microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [microsound] Call for Work: Queer Experimental Sound

People. 
Really. 
 
Did PH scream "fag!" ["phag?"] in response to the call for works? 
I didn't read the word, but after years of experience as the target of
homophobia, it was loud and clear. 
 
For me it isn't enough to move on and leave the conversation behind.
I'm preparing a piece that uses the text of his silly homophobic email
as its spine. If only I had his voice to twist and tangle into the
piece! Maybe I'll send it in to Bending Sound. I'll share it if I
finish it this weekend. 
 
His smarmy email has nothing to do with any debate about identity
(politics), or marxism, or post-post-anything else. I love that stuff.
It's about petulance. 
 
Todd got it right. PH's coprophagous attitude makes the need for
Bending Sound all the more necessary. 
 
JC 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: mcnafong@xxxxxxxx 
To: microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Mon, 7 May 2007 12:49 PM 
Subject: Re: [microsound] Call for Work: Queer Experimental Sound 
 
Agreed that identity politics is a bit riddled with problems. But
still, it seems the reaction waas more vituperative than
intellectual.  
  
At any rate, it's probably best to just move on, no?  
  
On May 7, 2007, at 12:17 PM, David Powers wrote:  
  
I'm not sure ph's original comment was "ridicule", but I can see how  
there could be a disturbing aspect to questioning this call for
works.  
  
On the other hand, identity politics tend to leave a bad taste in my  
mouth. The move to identity politics coincided nicely with a broad  
depoliticizing, especially on the economic front, and with the  
ascension of eighties pomo relativism. Is identity politics, and  
artwork rooted in identity politics, really still relevant?  
  
I'd feel a little different if I saw some attempt to make rhizomatic  
connections going on. Some mention of class, economy, and attempts
to  
make connections beyond this narrow field of identity politics...  
  
~David  
  
On 5/7/07, Todd Shalom <retodd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:  
to chide ethan for posting to both the 'announce' and 'general'
lists >> is one  
thing (seemingly a newbie error on his part) and could have been
done  
off-list.  
but to ridicule the call for entry is just upsetting.  
would you react the same way to a posting for artists of color?
your  
negation of this call simply reinforces its importance.  
  
todd  
  
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