Re: [microsound] renoise

[Arjen Schat <maskineri@xxxxxxxxx>]

In my musical development I come across a lot of obstacles.
Some sounds I wanted to create couldn't be done with a digital  
synthesizer or VSTi, and deep sonic textures could only be done with  
(for example) granular synthese and heavy DSP chaining.
Therefore I have chosen to combine the best of both worlds and take  
advantage of its possibilities, not its limitations.

Here is an example of an arpeggiated sequence with a Korg MS2000 I  
mentioned earlier (the last minute or so is not relevant, but it  
builds up quite nice): http://www.stalcon.net/works/Example_MS2000.mp3


Kind regards,

Arjen Schat.


Op 18-nov-2007, om 21:08 heeft Cyrill Bloch het volgende geschreven:

> Yes, Reason is a "gaz-station" (we say it in france when a software  
> is huge in terms of RAM and disk-space, don't know if it comes from  
> english or not)
>
> I see many defects in Reason (not really defects, but things you  
> cant do), but it remains my main way to do my music, even if i  
> prepare my samples with specialised pieces of software (soundforge  
> or audacity).
>
> I'm not really fond of reason, but i need to do tracks, it is  
> really a urge, and reason is the easier way i've found so far. The  
> easier doesn't mean the better, i know, but for the moment i need  
> to do sounds that people can listen to. I know more or less how to  
> use pd, but i still don't know how to make a pop song with pd...
>
> C
> le 11/18/07 8:53 PM:
> > Haha, this is a ridiculous large system though.
> >
> > I know what you mean, I can do the same thing with my Korg MS2000,  
> > it has the same kind of oldschool sequencer as the 960 module from  
> > Moog (except for the skip/normal/stop modes)
> > and in combination with the arpeggiator I can edit the arpeggiated  
> > sequence using the 'forward/reverse/alt1/alt2' modes from the  
> > sequencer and by changing the chords.
> >
> > The way I discovered in Renoise works much better by the way..
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Arjen Schat.
> >
> >
> > Op 18-nov-2007, om 20:33 heeft Cyrill Bloch het volgende geschreven:
> >
> > > Gosh, just when i thought my MS20 was quite complex!
> > >
> > > what i meant is that you can change your  arppeggios in Reason  
> > > just by changing the notes you play live. Now you can really do  
> > > it live. I don't know if it is as efficient as Renoise, I've been  
> > > trying this software for only a week or so, and even if i use  
> > > Reason a lot, I don't play live with it. But Renoise seems pretty  
> > > cool.
> > >
> > > C
> > >
> > > le 11/18/07 8:22 PM:
> > > > This is not an arpeggiated sequence or something, I edit the  
> > > > sequence realtime.
> > > > Check this video for a comparison with the Synthesizers.com Q960  
> > > > module:
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNmzyZaqVwI
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Met vriendelijke groet,
> > > >
> > > > Arjen Schat.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Op 18-nov-2007, om 20:17 heeft Cyrill Bloch het volgende  
> > > > geschreven:
> > > >
> > > > > Well, I think you can do that kind of stuff live in Reason 4,  
> > > > > using the RPG8 module...
> > > > > You just have to play your chords live, and it is appergiatted  
> > > > > automatically.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cyrill
> > > > >
> > > > > le 11/18/07 8:04 PM:
> > > > > > I'm not sure if this is possible in 'normal' sequencers, but  
> > > > > > it works amazing in Renoise:
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWdhIJ-clZ8
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kind regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Arjen Schat.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Op 16-nov-2007, om 19:21 heeft Graham Miller het volgende  
> > > > > > geschreven:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > curious what kind of creative advantage/perspective this kind  
> > > > > > > of sequencer might give over more modern sequencers, like  
> > > > > > > ableton live or logic?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > is their any reason to go down this route aside from an  
> > > > > > > interest in its historical/gaming context? i know people like  
> > > > > > > autechre and whatnot claim to use them... i think maybe  
> > > > > > > venetian snares too... but i just don't see the advantage...  
> > > > > > > it seems so archaic and unintuitive to me...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thoughts?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > g.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 16-Nov-07, at 11:58 AM, Kim Cascone wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > sorry if this has been brought up before but I remembered  
> > > > > > > > someone in a workshop being very pleased with this:
> > > > > > > > http://www.renoise.com/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > anyone have any experience using this tracker?
> > > > > > >
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