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Re: [microsound] law and order at last.fm

thank you for your understanding Sietse!
Internet had the same impact on my music. I wouldn't be where i am if i had
not crossed the infinite possibilities it gave me. I made a cover of "video
killed the radio star" entitled "computer killed the synthesis stars" about
the subject.

I too, would rather see people listening to my music, spreading it like
germs all over the univers than make money from it. And *the majors* know
this more than well.  My only worry is to see major take advantage of the
independent musicians contemporary situation.

While we are the ones who create the content! Money is made out of myspace,
last.fm, virb.com or what so ever social networks... :) have you got a
myspace? i have. Have you ever got any money from them? i havn't... Sure
some people may have comed to my venues thanks to myspace, payed the
entrancy and beers, ice-tea or what ever... but the actual site money? where
dose it goes?

I'm not saying one should restrict it's music to people who can affort it.
ANd i strongly recommend to everybody to use the promotional tools "given"
to us! Because never before could the artist be so close to it's audience.

I'm just sensing that they are trying to inverse the industry, but on our
level: the indpendent level. Making us pay for distribution, where the music
should pay the artist AND the distributor.... not only the
distributor.(hobby or not it is ALOT of time and energy we spend right?) And
it is important that we stay aware of the undefinable value of our art!

I think i said it all now. :)

thanks,
reSet



On Jan 30, 2008 3:08 PM, Sietse Van Erve <sietse.van.erve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> no problem, was just a suggestion ;)
>
> On Jan 30, 2008 2:40 PM, reSet Sakrecoer <sakrecoer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > oh and by the way.... knowing we don't know each other, nor our
> respective
> > activities, please choose a more friendly way of putting things to me :)
> >
> > Last.fm isn't your family right? i'm not attacking you personaly, am i?
> >
> > You know nothing about my interests in this list. But let me assure you
> I'm
> > not on it for money, but for the art. And as a full time artist: yes i
> > expect to live from my art!
> >
> > Thank you for your understanding and open minded respect,
> > reSet Sakrecoer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 30, 2008 2:25 PM, Sietse Van Erve <sietse.van.erve@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Probably if you want to do it for the money indeed last.fm is not the
> > > best option. Though, they also have options to sell music.
> > > But besides that, i don't know what you make, but considering you are
> > > on this list for making money with music a change in style would
> > > probably be the best option.
> > >
> > > I myself do not care about the money that much. It's nice if i get
> > > some, but I like it more if my music gets widespread among the people
> > > who like the kind of i do.
> > >
> > > Sietse
> > >
> > > On Jan 30, 2008 2:11 PM, reSet Sakrecoer <sakrecoer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > nothing has changed except a few dozen extra paragraphs... :P
> > > > i don't realy see a probem with this neither... but i don't feel i
> want
> > > to
> > > > use it as a radio station knowing, that if i paid, there would be
> bigger
> > > > chances for my music to reach out....
> > > >
> > > > back in the days, artists got paid for airplay, now it's the other
> way
> > > > arround!
> > > > Like they say in the US and A:  "great business opportunity!"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jan 30, 2008 1:59 PM, Sietse Van Erve <sietse.van.erve@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I feel that some people are negative towards last.fm since it has
> been
> > > > > bought by CBS, but nothing has changed regarding rights about the
> > > > > music and similar things. I don't see a problem in this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Greetings,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sietse
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jan 30, 2008 1:19 PM, reSet Sakrecoer <sakrecoer@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > > > > > don't let yourself go too far!
> > > > > > it's defenitley not the same as myspace, and the list has alot
> of
> > > > > > interesting topics... filter with your choice!! ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > but still i wonder about beeing an active artist on last.fm....$
> > > > > >
> > > > > > why don't we let the audience do the work?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Jan 30, 2008 1:06 PM, chmafu nocords <chmafu@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for your answer.
> > > > > > > Yes, I think Sun Ra is a great example. He would have been
> banned
> > > from
> > > > > > > last.fm within seconds.
> > > > > > > And just like you, I can't see why many people on this list
> love
> > > > > last.fm
> > > > > > > while hating myspace so much. What's the difference?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maybe I was wrong and this list IS the right place to discuss
> > > these
> > > > > > > things.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Greetings from a Venusian who feels pretty lost on this planet
> > > :-))
> > > > > > > maru
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > even thou i understand the possible feeling of
> unserioussness
> > > your
> > > > > > > writing
> > > > > > > > could give, i'm sollidary to you. I believe sunra would have
> > > written
> > > > > > > > something similar if he had to promote himself. Last.fm is
> not
> > > > > > > > audioscrobbler anymore. It is a new way for majors to build
> > > > > > > > direct-to-user-charts, that will, in the future, help the
> > > > > localisation
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > potential bigger money generators...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm actualy surprised how popular this service is among
> > > > > microsounders...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > /reSet
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > chmafu nocords - www.nocords.net
> > > > > > > www.cafeshops.com/chmafu_nocords
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
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