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Re: [microsound] generative concept



I did not think that anyone was frustrated. I was actually flattered and amazed at the interest in the project. Thanks for your email Baard. My email was to state that I do not want to the momentum of people's interest, but also felt the need to state that this will be a long term project and something that will not be done in a month.

I really enjoyed everyone's suggestions and ideas on the flow of the overall piece and will try to work them into the code.

I think that this project will go will with microsound people to developing a nice sample archive for the program to pull samples from.


Mike Palace
----- Original Message ----- From: "baard harazi farbu" <bardfarbu@xxxxxxxxx> To: "microsound" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Michael Palace" <palace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [microsound] generative concept


Micheal

I don't think anyone is getting frustrated over this.

I think we have found a basic and easy breakdown of what we want the piece
to do. And we can leave it at that until we have any further development.

When and if you find the time and opportunity to work on the project, we can
start a work flo of collecting samples, and completing the "inner dynamics"
of each part.

I hope you both see this as a way of gaining experience for further
development of your product. And I sincerely hope this  project  won't  die
before birth because of bickering on this list.

Healthy discussion is good, but I don't think we are at a point in
development were details are to be stated.

all the best,
bård



On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Michael Palace <palace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

I want to stress two things.  One that I need to talk to my co-developer
about working on the microsound version of code and two that we are both
experiencing an extremely busy time period with work. I do not want people
to feel frustrated about slow development of the project, mainly becuase
we
do this in our spare time.

Here is the general concept that we put in our proposal.  Rob Braswell and
I
are earth system scientists and ecologists, so we were coming from that
background.  Rob though did get his M.S. in physics.  There is more and if
anyone knows of a grant agency that might be interested in such a work,
please let me know.

Ecological computer models and simulations often utilize stochastic
properties

to examine real world phenomena and principles that are inherently
complex,

non-linear, or dynamic. Music, both in composition and sound design, has

been shown to benefit from chance operations and indeterminacy,
nonlinearity,

and complexity. Rarely have musicians, scientists, and performers

utilized both composition and sound synthesis techniques in cutting-edge

techniques. With our knowledge and expertise in ecological and

environmental science, we hope to develop a fused compositional and sound

synthesis web-based tool that allows for an online community to compose,

shape, and change a continually evolving soundscape.






We hope to develop this graphical interface to be interactive, allowing
the
user

to change parameters and generate a new short audio sequence that uses

both the sound design tools and the compositional program. We hope that

such a feature will be also be used by the electronic music community.
Both

the sound design tool and the composition program will be accessed of the

web with little or no advanced programming necessary for utilization.



Our model for accomplishing this includes four phases. First, we generate
a
genetic algorithm

for composition that has the propensity for change based on different
statistical distributions

pertinent to the music temporal scale. Second, we will develop a sound
synthesis tools which

incorporates a potentially unlimited number of oscillators, neural
networks,
and includes the use

of ecological models to generate sound. The structure of such sound
synthesis can move and

change in direct relationship to the compositional changes and vice versa.
Third, we hope to

transfer existing MATLAB code we have developed into the open source
programming language

Octave. To create a web based tool, Flash will be used to develop a user
interface for use of

our compositional and sound design tools. We will encourage development
and
changes to our

code from a potential user community. Finally, we plan to create a
streaming
continuous

composition available over the internet that has the ability to be shaped
by
the audience through

the use of our compositional and sound design tools. Model parameters of
our
compositional

and sound design programs will be recorded with the ability to recreate
the
continuous musical

composition at any point in time. We also hope to allow the user then to
visualize compositional

parameters and manipulate such a fixed set parameter space to develop
their
own short section

of musical expression.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bård Harazi Farbu" <bardfarbu@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "microsound" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [microsound] beginning-less universe


> Hi Paulo
>
> Again I see your point, I hope.(having to look up half the words in
 your
> post in a dictionary i'm not quite certain)
>
> The durations implied were only to give Micheal a idea of what the
> aplication should be able to handle, nothing absolute.
>
> The breakdown presented was just a description of the theory itself.
> Simplified in order to have a basic construction to build from.
>
> If you have any concrete suggestions to the breakdown I would be  happy
if
> you presented them.
>
>
> bård
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 22, 2008, at 2:06 PM, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>
>> Repeating processes are not anathema to rhizomes. It all boils down to
>> the interconnections and multiplicities allowed by the process.
>>
>> //p
>> http://www.interdisciplina.org/00.0/
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 1:20 AM, Bård Harazi Farbu  <
bardfarbu@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>> hi paulo
>>>
>>> I don't see the point of the point of letting this piece be
>>> rhizomatic, while  the theme of the piece is to mimmic a repeating
>>> mechanism.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2008, at 2:05 AM, Paulo Mouat wrote:
>>>
>>>> rhizomatic
>>>
>>>
>>> mvh,
>>>
>>> Bård Farbu
>>>
>>> @:              bardfarbu@xxxxxxxxx
>>> www:    bardfarbu.com
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> mvh,
>
> Bård Farbu
>
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