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Re: [microsound] Call for Work: Queer Experimental Sound
Mac,
I know you didn't mean it that way. I appreciate that you called PH on
the carpet about his response to Ethan's posting. At this point, I
think enough has been said on the topic. A little vetting is a good
thing, too much gets tiresome. And I try to keep homopedantry to a
minimum (not always with success). PH now has his 15 nanoseconds of
fame. Next.
I'll be sure to post my PHnoise somewhere I can share it with
microsounders. I'm going to play a little with an Anita Bryant LP I
picked up in a garage sale. I'm thinking of using the title "Phpht."
Thanks for your email.
JC
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From: mcnafong@xxxxxxxx
To: microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, 8 May 2007 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [microsound] Call for Work: Queer Experimental Sound
JC,
By no means was I suggesting that it was a trifle - I'm one of the
first people who called him on the carpet for his homophobia. I guess I
was just saying that it's not terribly productive to vet these matters
on email. It only gets more attention than it deserves and results in
amplifying the situation. Ooops, I guess I just did that, didn't I?
At any rate, I look forward to hearing what you produce in response.
sincerely,
mac
On May 8, 2007, at 12:53 PM, jcespinosa@xxxxxxx wrote:
I just love when needs are necessary. They're no fun otherwise. And >
it's even more difficult to get them funded through grants.
-----Original Message-----
From: jcespinosa@xxxxxxx
To: microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [microsound] Call for Work: Queer Experimental Sound
People.
Really.
Did PH scream "fag!" ["phag?"] in response to the call for works?
I didn't read the word, but after years of experience as the target
of > homophobia, it was loud and clear.
For me it isn't enough to move on and leave the conversation behind.
> I'm preparing a piece that uses the text of his silly homophobic
email > as its spine. If only I had his voice to twist and tangle into
the > piece! Maybe I'll send it in to Bending Sound. I'll share it if I
finish it this weekend.
His smarmy email has nothing to do with any debate about identity >
(politics), or marxism, or post-post-anything else. I love that stuff.
It's about petulance.
Todd got it right. PH's coprophagous attitude makes the need for >
Bending Sound all the more necessary.
JC
-----Original Message-----
From: mcnafong@xxxxxxxx
To: microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon, 7 May 2007 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [microsound] Call for Work: Queer Experimental Sound
Agreed that identity politics is a bit riddled with problems. But >
still, it seems the reaction waas more vituperative than >
intellectual.
At any rate, it's probably best to just move on, no?
On May 7, 2007, at 12:17 PM, David Powers wrote:
I'm not sure ph's original comment was "ridicule", but I can see
how
there could be a disturbing aspect to questioning this call for
works.
On the other hand, identity politics tend to leave a bad taste in
my
mouth. The move to identity politics coincided nicely with a broad
depoliticizing, especially on the economic front, and with the
ascension of eighties pomo relativism. Is identity politics, and
artwork rooted in identity politics, really still relevant?
I'd feel a little different if I saw some attempt to make
rhizomatic
connections going on. Some mention of class, economy, and attempts
to
make connections beyond this narrow field of identity politics...
~David
On 5/7/07, Todd Shalom <retodd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
to chide ethan for posting to both the 'announce' and 'general'
lists >> is one
thing (seemingly a newbie error on his part) and could have been
done
off-list.
but to ridicule the call for entry is just upsetting.
would you react the same way to a posting for artists of color?
your
negation of this call simply reinforces its importance.
todd
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